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From: Tom Rini <trini@ti.com>
To: Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>
Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Best practices for hardware shipping device trees
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 14:41:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130814184148.GD2983@bill-the-cat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130814163823.GD32395@titan.lakedaemon.net>

On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:38:23PM -0400, Jason Cooper wrote:
> Hey Tom,
> 
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 11:13:45AM -0400, Tom Rini wrote:
> > Do we have a document yet talking about the best practices for how we
> > would like a hardware vendor to ship, store and possibly update a device
> > tree, on the hardware?  "However they like" seems likely to invite
> > problems down the line with everyone trying their own thing.  Thanks!
> 
> Speaking from my experience with the Marvell SoCs and after market
> installation of mainline code (bootloaders, kernel, etc), I can say what
> I'd like to see, if that helps ;-)
> 
>   1) individually upgradable (bootloader, dtb, config, kernel, etc)
>       - separate flash partitions for each

Well, that assumes it comes from the factory with flash flashed.  Forgot
to update my mutt rules before sending the first post, but a lot of TI
boards don't ship with NAND programmed, just an SD card, even in the
cases of boards with NAND.  On some families (am335x) we include a
relatively large EEPROM on the references, of which some customers throw
out and some keep and re-purpose with their own data.

>   2) bootloader uses as well as passes off the dtb
>       - Good for scenarios where user wants to modify flash partitions,
>         he would only need to update the dtb.
>       - facilitates fixes after deployment since dtb not bound to
>         bootloader.

Putting my U-Boot guy hat on, I'm happy to go down this path more, in
certain areas where we can afford it, once things in DT-land are stable
(and we have examples of this today, even).

-- 
Tom

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-14 18:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-14 15:13 [RFC] Best practices for hardware shipping device trees Tom Rini
2013-08-14 16:38 ` Jason Cooper
2013-08-14 18:41   ` Tom Rini [this message]
2013-08-14 18:53     ` Jason Cooper
2013-08-14 16:44 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-14 17:20   ` Jason Cooper
2013-08-14 18:25   ` Tom Rini
2013-08-15  0:37     ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-08-15  2:09       ` Tom Rini
2013-08-15  2:57         ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-08-15 14:53           ` Tom Rini
2013-08-15 15:30             ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-15 16:37               ` Tom Rini
2013-08-15 17:31                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-15 18:56                   ` Tom Rini
2013-08-15 22:34                     ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-15 15:45             ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-08-15 17:00               ` Tom Rini
2013-08-15 23:59           ` David Gibson
2013-08-16  2:51             ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-08-19  0:15               ` David Gibson
2013-08-19 18:43                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-08-20  6:40                   ` Alexander Graf
2013-08-20 12:02                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-08-20 17:02                       ` Matt Sealey
2013-08-20 17:29                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-08-20 15:03                     ` Tom Rini

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