From: Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/33] ARM: ux500: Supply the I2C clocks lookup to the DBX500 DT
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:08:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130827140805.GB10210@lee--X1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130827134621.GJ19893@e106331-lin.cambridge.arm.com>
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 09:06:35AM +0100, Lee Jones wrote:
> > On Fri, 23 Aug 2013, Mark Rutland wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 08:56:07AM +0100, Lee Jones wrote:
> > > > I had a short chat with Rob last night about this. I'm going to loop
> > > > him in to the conversation, as he wrote the binding.
> > > >
> > > > > > When most of the other clocks that we deal with are being requested,
> > > > > > they rely on being index zero:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-nomadik.c: dev->clk = clk_get(&adev->dev, NULL);
> > > > >
> > > > > Look at drivers/clk/clkdev.c, there's some fuzzy matching
> > > > > involved when you pass NULL as connection id.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I've been looking at that. This is why it works currently. I
> > > > think I need to change all of the drivers to specify which clock they
> > > > want. At the moment that 'fuzzy matching' is what's saving us. If
> > > > anyone were to change our DTS file to match what the binding says,
> > > > then it would cease to work. I'm guessing this is the same for all
> > > > other DTS files too:
> > >
> > > I think if anything, the binding document(s) should be updated to
> > > describe that apb_pclk is referred to by name, and the names of the
> > > other clocks should be described in the specific device bindings. We can
> > > then modify the drivers which grab clock 0 to explicitly grab the first
> > > clock by name, and backwards compatibility should not be broken.
> > >
> > > I don't believe any other OS has implemented the common clock bindings,
> > > and we've never supported the binding as described. Let's correct the
> > > de-facto standard into a standard by decree.
> >
> > I think we need to respect, or at least take into consideration the
> > reason for the original 'de-facto' standard. Other OSes shouldn't be
> > forced to provide a named clock request in order to obtain
> > 'apb_pclk'. If the binding says it should be first, then perhaps we
> > should do just that. It's simply a matter of naming all subsequent
> > clocks related to AMBA devices.
>
> Ideally, yes. However, we have to be careful to not break compatibility.
>
> I took a look at existing primecell drivers and what they do. The
> situation isn't so bad (with the exception of the
> half-dt/half-platform-code mess):
>
> * Some don't deal with clocks at all (no clk* in the driver). pl320 is
> in the ecx-common dtsi with only apb_pclk but has no binding
> defined. Some have no clocks defined in the dt and are presumably few
> clocks by platform data or are non-functional.
>
> I'm not sure how these DTs are going to be supported if and when we
> remove the platform data they depend upon. If we're really going to do
> that, then they are clearly not supported as-is long term.
>
> * The pl022 driver grabs the first clock to figure out the rate of the
> spi bus (assuming it is SSPCLK). The SSPCLK input is not defined in
> the binding. The ste-u300 dts has two clock-names, "apb_pclk" and
> "spi_clk" (in that order), but they refer to the same clock.
>
> Given the existing driver simply grabs the first clock and they're
> both the same, we could re-order the names and make the driver grab
> the second clock. That wouldn't break backwards compatibility with the
> sole dts file we have using the binding, though this assumes no-one
> else has a dt lying around with different clocks.
>
> * pl010 grabs the first clock given to it to figure out the uart rate
> (assuming it is UARTCLK), but it's only in integratorap.dts, without
> clocks, and is presumably fed by platform data. There is no binding
> document.
>
> pl011 grabs the first clock given to figure out the UART rate
> (assuming it is UARTCLK). The binding explicitly states it's only
> given apb_pclk, despite UARTCLK and PCLK being separate inputs to the
> IP block.
>
> These two bindings don't describe the hardware, and should be fixed.
> The only way I can think to make this work without breaknig backwards
> compatibility would be to try to grab the second clock and then fall
> back to the first if there isn't one. The other option is to break
> backwards compatibility, but I'm not sure that's much of an option.
>
> * pl111 has no driver or binding in mainline, but appears in dts files.
> Those dts files clcdclk and apb_pclk, in that order. We could fix
> those before a driver starts using them.
>
> If you think those suggestions are OK, I can put together a series to
> fix this.
I think we need to hear from Rob before we proceed tbh, as he is the
original author and should have a chance to voice his opinion.
--
Lee Jones
Linaro ST-Ericsson Landing Team Lead
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2013-08-27 8:06 ` [PATCH 09/33] ARM: ux500: Supply the I2C clocks lookup to the DBX500 DT Lee Jones
2013-08-27 13:46 ` Mark Rutland
2013-08-27 14:08 ` Lee Jones [this message]
2013-08-27 15:51 ` Rob Herring
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