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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/8] Add the Quadspi driver for vf610-twr
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:24:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130912132404.GP29403@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130912115549.GI12758@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

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On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:55:49PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:48:31PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:

> > So, to repeat my earlier question can someone tell me what a LUT is?

> It's a very common abbreviation - Look Up Table.

Right, but that doesn't have an obvious mapping to SPI...

> More specifically, it's a set of registers which give the SPI controller
> a sequence of 16-bit commands to execute, which tell it what to do on
> the SPI bus.  Each register contains two commands, and it executes them
> successively throughout the register set until it reaches a STOP command.
> These commands tell the SPI controller the width of the bus, a command
> to send on SPI, whether to read or write data and how much, etc.

That's not quite the full story, these appear to be doing flash specific
things which depend on the partcular flash being interacted with and
which as a result aren't purely at the SPI level.  It's not clear if
this has some sort of generic meaning for flash or if it really is just
a controller specific implementation detail, nor is it clear what the
actual meaning of what the commands do is.

> If you read the comments in patch 5, and the code, it's all explained
> there.

The biggest problem with most of this stuff has been poor abstractions
and application specific assumptions so I'd not want to just assume that
there isn't some broader meaning that's obvious in the flash context, it
seems fairly clear that the hardware is specifically targetted at flash
so generic flash concepts seem likely to appear in the hardware.

Also bear in mind that we need a respin at the big picture level here,
the patches have already been discarded.

> I never saw this before until about an hour ago when I took an interest
> in it after your "what is a LUT" question, and it took less than 15
> minutes to work the above out.

I wouldn't assume that a quick scan is going to tell you what's going
on, nor that things have been explained clearly.

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-12 13:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-30  2:07 [PATCH v3 0/8] Add the Quadspi driver for vf610-twr Huang Shijie
2013-08-30  2:07 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] mtd: m25p80: move the spi-nor commands to a header Huang Shijie
2013-08-30  2:07 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] mtd: m25p80: add support for Spansion s25fl128s chip Huang Shijie
2013-08-30  2:07 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] mtd: m25p80: add the quad-read support Huang Shijie
2013-08-30  2:07 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] mtd: m25p80: add the DDR " Huang Shijie
2013-08-30  2:07 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] spi: Add Freescale QuadSpi driver Huang Shijie
2013-09-10 18:09   ` Mark Brown
2013-09-11  2:40     ` Huang Shijie
2013-09-11 10:39       ` Mark Brown
2013-08-30  2:07 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] Documentation: add the binding file for Quadspi driver Huang Shijie
2013-08-30  2:07 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] ARM: dts: vf610: change the PAD values for Quadspi Huang Shijie
2013-08-30  2:07 ` [PATCH v3 8/8] ARM: dts: vf610-twr: Add SPI NOR support Huang Shijie
2013-09-04  2:16 ` [PATCH v3 0/8] Add the Quadspi driver for vf610-twr Huang Shijie
2013-09-04  9:55   ` Mark Brown
2013-09-04 10:29     ` Huang Shijie
2013-09-04 11:33       ` Mark Brown
2013-09-05  1:43         ` Huang Shijie
2013-09-04 13:45           ` thomas.langer
2013-09-05  2:04             ` Huang Shijie
2013-09-05  4:25               ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-09-05  5:34                 ` Huang Shijie
2013-09-05  6:32                   ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-09-05  7:45                     ` Huang Shijie
2013-09-05  9:11                       ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-09-05  9:30                         ` Huang Shijie
2013-09-05 13:50                           ` Mark Brown
2013-09-06  2:36                             ` Huang Shijie
2013-09-08 13:47                               ` Mark Brown
2013-09-09  3:07                                 ` Huang Shijie
2013-09-09 15:14                                   ` Mark Brown
2013-09-10  6:59                                     ` Huang Shijie
2013-09-10 18:07                                       ` Mark Brown
2013-09-11  2:38                                         ` Huang Shijie
2013-09-11 10:41                                           ` Mark Brown
2013-09-11 10:54                                             ` Huang Shijie
2013-09-11 11:30                                               ` Mark Brown
2013-09-11 12:26                                                 ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-09-11 12:35                                                   ` Mark Brown
2013-09-12  9:18                                                 ` Huang Shijie
2013-09-12 10:20                                                   ` Mark Brown
2013-09-13  3:30                                                     ` Huang Shijie
2013-09-12 15:32                                                       ` David Woodhouse
2013-09-12 10:39                                                   ` David Woodhouse
2013-09-12 10:56                                                     ` Gupta, Pekon
2013-09-12 11:17                                                       ` David Woodhouse
2013-09-12 11:48                                                         ` Mark Brown
2013-09-12 11:55                                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-09-12 13:24                                                             ` Mark Brown [this message]
2013-09-12 13:25                                                             ` Ricard Wanderlof
2013-09-12 14:10                                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-09-12 12:02                                                           ` David Woodhouse
2013-09-12 13:43                                                             ` Mark Brown
2013-09-12 14:03                                                               ` David Woodhouse
2013-09-12 14:40                                                                 ` Mark Brown
2013-09-13  3:14                                                                 ` Huang Shijie
2013-09-11 14:05                                               ` David Woodhouse
2013-09-11 15:07                                                 ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                   ` <20130909151450 <52318953.6090405@freescale.com>
     [not found]                                     ` <52318953.6090405@freescale.com>
2013-09-12  9:50                                       ` David Woodhouse
2013-09-12 10:19                                         ` Mark Brown
2013-09-13  2:58                                         ` Huang Shijie
2013-09-12 15:22                                           ` David Woodhouse
2013-09-13  4:12                                             ` Huang Shijie
2013-09-12 16:26                                               ` David Woodhouse
2013-09-13  3:06                                                 ` Huang Shijie
2013-09-12 16:27                                               ` Fabio Estevam
     [not found]                                                 ` <CAOMZO5C54wCdEOHJmwVLk_zkh-twjis1ys20Gd1+T+ygM+A6bg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-13  2:21                                                   ` Huang Shijie
2013-09-12 20:56                                               ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                                 ` <20130912205644.GW29403-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-13  4:55                                                   ` Huang Shijie
     [not found]                                                     ` <52329AD3.2050608-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-13 10:21                                                       ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                                         ` <20130913102127.GD29403-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-16  2:40                                                           ` Huang Shijie
2013-09-16 10:19                                                             ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                                               ` <20130916101912.GY29403-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-16 10:27                                                                 ` Huang Shijie
     [not found]                                                                   ` <5236DD17.5090203-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-16 11:06                                                                     ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                                                       ` <20130916110634.GC29403-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-17  2:14                                                                         ` Huang Shijie
     [not found]                                                                           ` <5237BB01.3080700-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-17 10:51                                                                             ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                                                               ` <20130917105142.GO21013-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-17 15:05                                                                                 ` Gerhard Sittig
2013-09-17 16:49                                                                                   ` Gerhard Sittig
2013-09-17 19:54                                                                                     ` Sourav Poddar
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <20130917150548.GE14747-kDjWylLy9wD0K7fsECOQyeGNnDKD8DIp@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-17 19:13                                                                                     ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                                                                       ` <20130917191318.GJ21013-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-18 15:40                                                                                         ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                                                                                           ` <1379518822.753.91.camel-Fexsq3y4057IgHVZqg5X0TlWvGAXklZc@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-18 16:00                                                                                             ` Mark Brown

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