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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"rob.herring@calxeda.com" <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	Pawel Moll <Pawel.Moll@arm.com>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	MyungJoo Ham <myungjoo.ham@samsung.com>,
	Chanwoo Choi <cw00.choi@samsung.com>,
	"grant.likely@linaro.org" <grant.likely@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 5/6] extcon-gpio: Describe devicetree bindings
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 09:53:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130912165304.GA12202@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130912164100.GF22013@e106331-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 05:41:00PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 05:29:37AM +0100, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > Signed-off-by: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
> > ---
> >  .../devicetree/bindings/extcon/extcon-gpio         |   23 ++++++++++++++++++++
> >  1 file changed, 23 insertions(+)
> >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/extcon/extcon-gpio
> > 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/extcon/extcon-gpio b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/extcon/extcon-gpio
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 0000000..091ddc6
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/extcon/extcon-gpio
> > @@ -0,0 +1,23 @@
> > +Device-Tree bindings for extcon/extcon-gpio driver
> 
> Bindings shouldn't refer to Linux-specifics like particular drivers.
> What class of hardware are you actually trying to describe?
> 
Agreed. Question is where to put the bindings, as they are not really 
specific to the extcon driver. The extcon driver merely implements 
the bindings. This is why the "compatible" statement reads "gpio-connector"
and not "extcon-something".

The bindings describe a connector managed through gpio pins.

> > +
> > +Required properties:
> > +	- compatible = "gpio-connector";
> > +	- presence-detect-gpios - presence detect gpio pin
> > +
> > +Optional properties:
> > +	- debounce-interval - debounce interval in milli-seconds
> > +	- state-on - on (connected) state
> > +	- state-off - off (disconnected) state
> > +	  Depending on the type of connector or cable, states may
> > +	  for example be reported as "connected"/"disconnected"
> > +	  or "inserted"/"removed".
> 
> I don't understand what the state-* properties describe. Do these
> provide semantic information to drivers? What is the full set of valid
> values?
> 
That is merely text which is ultimately passed on to the user.
Guess 'semantic information' might be a way to phrase it.

> > +
> > +Example node:
> > +
> > +	some-connector {
> > +		compatible = "gpio-connector";
> > +		presence-detect-gpios = <&gpio1 7 1>;
> > +		debounce-interval = <1>;
> > +		state-on = "connected";
> > +		state-on = "disconnected";
> > +	};
> 
> I'm not sure how much value this adds to bindings over describing the
> gpios directly. This seems to add a layer of indirection because of
> Linux internals.
> 
Not sure I understand what you mean with "describing the gpios directly".
Can you elaborate and/or provide an example ?

How would you describe the use of gpio pins used to detect board presence ?
That doesn't seem very Linux specific to me.

Thanks,
Guenter

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-12 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-30  4:29 [PATCH 0/6] extcon-gpio: Add devicetree support Guenter Roeck
2013-08-30  4:29 ` [PATCH 1/6] extcon-gpio: Do not unnecessarily initialize variables Guenter Roeck
2013-09-11  1:16   ` Chanwoo Choi
2013-08-30  4:29 ` [PATCH 2/6] extcon-gpio: If the gpio driver/chip supports debounce, use it Guenter Roeck
2013-09-11  1:16   ` Chanwoo Choi
2013-09-11  1:57     ` Guenter Roeck
2013-09-11  2:03       ` Chanwoo Choi
2013-08-30  4:29 ` [PATCH 3/6] extcon-gpio: Add support for active-low presence detect pins Guenter Roeck
2013-09-11  2:14   ` Chanwoo Choi
2013-09-11  2:25     ` [PATCH v2 " Guenter Roeck
2013-09-11 23:57       ` Chanwoo Choi
2013-09-12  0:23         ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-30  4:29 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] extcon-gpio: Add devicetree support Guenter Roeck
2013-09-12 16:45   ` Mark Rutland
2013-09-12 17:00     ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-30  4:29 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] extcon-gpio: Describe devicetree bindings Guenter Roeck
2013-09-12 16:41   ` Mark Rutland
2013-09-12 16:53     ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2013-09-16 14:21       ` Mark Rutland
     [not found]         ` <20130916142147.GF30650-NuALmloUBlrZROr8t4l/smS4ubULX0JqMm0uRHvK7Nw@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-16 15:19           ` Guenter Roeck
     [not found]             ` <20130916151953.GA5801-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-18 15:38               ` Mark Rutland
     [not found]                 ` <20130918153828.GB17453-NuALmloUBlrZROr8t4l/smS4ubULX0JqMm0uRHvK7Nw@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-19 16:42                   ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                     ` <20130919164245.GG21013-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-19 18:28                       ` Guenter Roeck
     [not found]                         ` <20130919182850.GA22775-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-19 18:35                           ` Mark Brown
2013-08-30  4:29 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] extcon-gpio: Describe possible properties to support multi-type cables Guenter Roeck

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