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From: David Gibson <david-xT8FGy+AXnRB3Ne2BGzF6laj5H9X9Tb+@public.gmane.org>
To: Rob Herring <robherring2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Benoit Cousson <bcousson-rdvid1DuHRBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Ian Campbell
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Subject: Re: [RFC 00/15] Device Tree schemas and validation
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 23:52:21 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131002135220.GG6506@voom.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <524ACB76.1010001-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

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On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 08:17:42AM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
> On 10/01/2013 03:06 AM, Benoit Cousson wrote:
> > + more DT maintainers folks
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I know this is mostly boring user space code, but I was expecting a
> > little bit of comments about at least the bindings syntax:-(
> > 
> > I'd like to know if this is the right direction and if it worth pursuing
> > in that direction.
> > 
> > The idea was to have at least some base for further discussion during
> > ARM KS 2013.
> > 
> > I feel alone :-(
> > 
> > If you have any comment, go ahead!
> 
> Thanks for taking this on!
> 
> This is interesting approach using the dts syntax, but I worry that the
> validation will only be as good as the schema written and the review of
> the schema. I think the schema needs to define the binding rather than
> define the checks. Then the schema can feed the validation checks. This
> format does not seem to me as easily being able to generate
> documentation from the schema which I believe is one of the goals. I for
> one don't care to review the documentation and the schema for every binding.

Hrm.  I'm less optimistic about entirely replacing human-readable
bindings with machine-readable schemas.  But I do think the schema
language needs to be substantially more flexible than the draft
presented here.

While I think a schema syntax which mirrors dts syntax makes a lot of
sense, actually defining schemas as "device" trees doesn't seem quite
right to me.

-- 
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				| _way_ _around_!
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      parent reply	other threads:[~2013-10-02 13:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-24 16:52 [RFC 00/15] Device Tree schemas and validation Benoit Cousson
2013-09-24 16:52 ` [RFC 01/15] scripts/dtc: fix most memory leaks in dtc Benoit Cousson
     [not found]   ` <1380041541-17529-2-git-send-email-bcousson-rdvid1DuHRBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-02 12:59     ` David Gibson
     [not found]       ` <CAOwMV_zAZG3vvWS6pkyK-FbOEg_32KRO-k1SmFSh-pc9+0JiPA@mail.gmail.com>
2013-10-03 14:26         ` Fabien Parent
     [not found] ` <1380041541-17529-1-git-send-email-bcousson-rdvid1DuHRBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-24 16:52   ` [RFC 02/15] scripts/dtc: build schema index for dts validation Benoit Cousson
2013-09-24 16:52   ` [RFC 03/15] scripts/dtc: validate each nodes and properties Benoit Cousson
2013-09-24 16:52   ` [RFC 06/15] scripts/dtc: check for required properties Benoit Cousson
2013-09-24 16:52   ` [RFC 08/15] scripts/dtc: check array size Benoit Cousson
2013-09-24 16:52   ` [RFC 09/15] scripts/dtc: check value of properties Benoit Cousson
2013-09-24 16:52   ` [RFC 10/15] scripts/dtc: add count limit on nodes Benoit Cousson
2013-10-01 22:22   ` [RFC 00/15] Device Tree schemas and validation Stephen Warren
     [not found]     ` <524B4B20.4020002-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-02 14:29       ` David Gibson
     [not found]         ` <20131002142914.GI6506-RXTfZT5YzpxwFLYp8hBm2A@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-03 13:53           ` Benoit Cousson
2013-10-06  3:02             ` Chaiken, Alison
2013-10-03 13:17     ` Benoit Cousson
2013-09-24 16:52 ` [RFC 04/15] scripts/dtc: add procedure to handle dts errors Benoit Cousson
2013-09-24 16:52 ` [RFC 05/15] scripts/dtc: check type on properties Benoit Cousson
2013-09-24 16:52 ` [RFC 07/15] scripts/dtc: can inherit properties Benoit Cousson
2013-09-24 16:52 ` [RFC 11/15] scripts/dtc: check for children nodes Benoit Cousson
2013-09-24 16:52 ` [RFC 12/15] scripts/dtc: check constraints on parents Benoit Cousson
2013-09-24 16:52 ` [RFC 13/15] bindings: OMAP: add new schema files Benoit Cousson
2013-09-24 16:52 ` [RFC 14/15] scripts/dtc: validate dts against schema bindings Benoit Cousson
2013-09-24 16:52 ` [RFC 15/15] scripts/dtc: add verbose options Benoit Cousson
2013-10-01  8:06 ` [RFC 00/15] Device Tree schemas and validation Benoit Cousson
     [not found]   ` <524A8289.3050107-rdvid1DuHRBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-01 13:17     ` Rob Herring
     [not found]       ` <524ACB76.1010001-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-01 15:06         ` Benoit Cousson
2013-10-01 15:17           ` Jon Loeliger
2013-10-02  8:24             ` David Gibson
2013-10-02  9:25             ` Benoit Cousson
     [not found]               ` <524BE66D.7060308-rdvid1DuHRBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-02 13:22                 ` Jon Loeliger
     [not found]           ` <524AE4FB.4080906-rdvid1DuHRBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-01 20:54             ` Rob Herring
     [not found]               ` <CAL_JsqJ31TGFJCSeSOqgee=OLVfSUTAYdF4nSn7X2DiCequVAw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-02 13:54                 ` David Gibson
2013-10-02 18:08                   ` Mark Brown
2013-10-02 23:38                     ` David Gibson
2013-10-03  6:52                   ` Benoit Cousson
2013-10-02 13:52         ` David Gibson [this message]

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