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From: Liviu Dudau <Liviu.Dudau@arm.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <Catalin.Marinas@arm.com>,
	Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Michal Simek <monstr@monstr.eu>,
	"grant.likely@linaro.org" <grant.likely@linaro.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Architecture independent pcibios?
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 11:45:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131009104553.GI25606@e102652-lin.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1381315068.4330.1.camel@pasglop>

On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 11:37:48AM +0100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-10-09 at 10:09 +0100, Liviu Dudau wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 09:28:55PM +0100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2013-10-08 at 11:55 -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
> > >
> > > > > I wonder if pci_process_bridge_OF_ranges() would fit somewhere in
> > > > > drivers/of?  The implementations I looked at are mostly concerned with
> > > > > parsing OF resources, and they don't have much to do with PCI
> > > > > directly.
> > > >
> > > > This was being done until Ben weighed in:
> > > >
> > > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/5/4/103
> > >
> > > Well, I proposed an alternative (better) approach which I of course had
> > > no time to actually implement yet :-)
> > 
> > In order to avoid any confusion, could you please point me again to the
> > relevant message(s) where you proposed your approach?
> 
> The one pointed to by the above URL ?
> 
> > > I have done the changes I needed to do to powerpc
> > > pci_process_bridge_OF_ranges so it would be possible to move that now to
> > > a generic place, but I still think it's not a great idea. It means the
> > > pci_controller structure with its resources will have to become generic
> > > which somewhat overlaps with the pci_host_bridge that Bjorn introduced,
> > > so that's really not great.
> > >
> > > I still think an arch with DT and simpler PCI code that powerpc could
> > > start looking at the transition to a better model that I hinted at...
> > 
> > As tempting as it is to start anew and with a cleaner code, I am wary
> > that porting the existing platforms to the new code will take longer
> > that way. My intentions are to make the (probably infrequent) task of
> > adding a new architecture to the PCI infrastructure a simple and
> > straighforward task. But adding code for my platform is no guarantee
> > that new ones will have an easier job.
> 
> It still makes little sense to generalize a pci_controller with
> resources & offset on top of the generic pci_host_bridge with apertures.

Agreed. I'm looking on how to move functions that use pci_controller to
use pci_host_bridge.

Semantic question: what is the perceived difference between a pci_controller
and a pci_host_bridge? Are they just historical naming artifacts of the
same concept? (person A deciding to do a cleanup of the code and picks a
new name in order not to upset the old APIs)

Best regards,
Liviu

> 
> Ben.
> 
> > Best regards,
> > Liviu
> > 
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Ben.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-09 10:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <20131008144211.GA25231-CibnQJhq84/ZROr8t4l/smS4ubULX0JqMm0uRHvK7Nw@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-08 16:32   ` [RFC] Architecture independent pcibios? Bjorn Helgaas
2013-10-08 16:55     ` Rob Herring
2013-10-08 17:20       ` Andrew Murray
2013-10-08 20:32         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-10-08 20:28       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-10-09  9:09         ` Liviu Dudau
2013-10-09 10:04           ` Liviu Dudau
2013-10-09 10:37           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-10-09 10:45             ` Liviu Dudau [this message]
2013-10-09 14:30               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-10-09 16:23                 ` Liviu Dudau
2013-10-15 11:48           ` Grant Likely
2013-10-08 17:13     ` Liviu Dudau
2013-10-08 18:58       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-10-08 20:31       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-10-09 11:52         ` Michal Simek

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