From: Richard Cochran <richardcochran-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe
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Nicolas Pitre <nico-vtqb6HGKxmzR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>,
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Thierry Reding
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Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] ARM topic: Is DT on ARM the solution, or is there something better?
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 19:45:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131023174458.GC5208@netboy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131023172955.GA17145-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:29:55AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>
> As far as I can see, all stable DTB gets you is the ability to flash
> the DTB into the firmware and never change it. Who does that actually
> help?
Once I design my board, and it goes into production, the hardware is
fixed. It doesn't change, and neither should the description of the
hardware, also known as the DTB. If I have to research all of the ways
that the bindings changed in order to upgrade my kernel, then I am
better off with the old, static, platform data. At least there the
compiler would complain if fields are removed or renamed.
I understand that having the bindings in flux makes life easier for
kernel developers, as it frees them from the burden of having to think
about the consequences of their hasty decisions. But those people are
not the only users. There is a much larger body of users than that.
Thanks,
Richard
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2013-10-20 21:26 ARM topic: Is DT on ARM the solution, or is there something better? Stephen Warren
2013-10-20 23:11 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
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2013-10-20 23:44 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Guenter Roeck
[not found] ` <52646AF9.3050309-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-20 23:51 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20131020235104.GT25034-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-21 0:13 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-21 20:05 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <52658918.1060708-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-22 9:45 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-21 8:32 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20131021083242.GB30088-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-21 8:48 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20131021084854.GV25034-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-21 9:27 ` Sascha Hauer
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[not found] ` < 20131024072811.GS30088@pengutronix.de>
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[not found] ` <20131021092730.GF30088-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-21 9:57 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
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2013-10-21 10:24 ` Thierry Reding
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2013-10-21 10:30 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20131021103014.GZ25034-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-21 10:41 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 9:19 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Mark Brown
2013-10-21 20:09 ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-21 23:18 ` Sascha Hauer
2013-10-24 1:14 ` Rob Clark
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2013-10-24 7:28 ` Sascha Hauer
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2013-10-24 9:00 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <20131024090054.GA11296-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 9:21 ` Sascha Hauer
2013-10-24 21:21 ` Rob Clark
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2013-10-25 9:24 ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-18 12:45 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
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2013-11-18 15:37 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <20131118153750.GM26046-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 16:11 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20131118161151.GG16735-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 16:18 ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-18 18:43 ` Mark Brown
2013-11-19 13:54 ` Grant Likely
2013-10-21 10:04 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-21 10:57 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-21 10:00 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-21 11:18 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
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2013-10-20 22:08 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20131020220839.GT2443-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-20 22:21 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <5264576F.6050307-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-21 1:00 ` Nicolas Pitre
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.03.1310201911190.1951-hIgblCxmbi8OMTOF05IoTw@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-21 9:15 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-21 14:57 ` Maxime Bizon
[not found] ` <20131021091555.GB21518-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-21 17:07 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-21 20:24 ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-22 9:24 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <20131022092410.GB15640-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-23 17:30 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 19:06 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 17:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-21 20:29 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <52658EBC.8020800-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-21 20:40 ` Nicolas Pitre
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2013-10-22 9:39 ` Thierry Reding
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2013-10-22 15:04 ` Matt Porter
2013-10-22 17:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2013-10-22 17:49 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-23 8:06 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 9:49 ` Thierry Reding
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2013-10-23 17:16 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 17:25 ` Matt Porter
2013-10-23 18:05 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 18:57 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-23 20:12 ` Matt Porter
2013-10-23 17:55 ` Nicolas Pitre
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2013-10-23 18:13 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 20:35 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 17:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2013-10-23 17:45 ` Richard Cochran [this message]
2013-10-23 18:46 ` Maxime Bizon
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2013-10-23 18:51 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 19:12 ` Maxime Bizon
2013-10-24 9:52 ` Grant Likely
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2013-10-24 11:33 ` Maxime Bizon
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2013-10-24 11:47 ` David Woodhouse
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2013-10-24 12:13 ` Maxime Bizon
2013-10-24 12:22 ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-24 12:22 ` David Woodhouse
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2013-10-24 13:05 ` Maxime Bizon
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2013-10-24 13:14 ` David Woodhouse
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2013-10-24 13:46 ` Maxime Bizon
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2013-10-24 19:52 ` Matt Porter
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2013-10-25 9:00 ` Stephen Warren
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2013-10-24 12:29 ` David Woodhouse
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2013-10-24 13:10 ` David Woodhouse
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2013-10-24 13:30 ` Maxime Bizon
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2013-10-24 14:05 ` David Woodhouse
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2013-10-24 14:19 ` Thierry Reding
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2013-10-24 14:30 ` David Woodhouse
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2013-10-24 14:38 ` Thierry Reding
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2013-10-24 17:08 ` Nicolas Pitre
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2013-10-24 14:32 ` Richard Cochran
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2013-10-24 15:37 ` Nicolas Pitre
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2013-10-24 14:57 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 16:27 ` Nicolas Pitre
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2013-10-24 14:58 ` Thierry Reding
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2013-10-23 17:58 ` Nicolas Pitre
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2013-10-23 18:23 ` Richard Cochran
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2013-10-23 18:30 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 18:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2013-10-24 8:52 ` Sascha Hauer
2013-10-23 23:29 ` Ben Hutchings
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2013-10-24 7:32 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-24 9:35 ` Ben Hutchings
2013-10-24 12:02 ` Andre Heider
2013-10-24 8:01 ` Sascha Hauer
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2013-10-24 8:11 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 17:42 ` Nicolas Pitre
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2013-10-22 18:21 ` Peter Maydell
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2013-10-22 18:36 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-22 19:16 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-22 20:12 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 20:41 ` Nicolas Pitre
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2013-10-22 21:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-23 8:50 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 9:02 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 20:42 ` Matt Porter
2013-10-23 10:04 ` Thierry Reding
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2013-10-23 11:48 ` Peter Maydell
2013-10-23 16:29 ` Matt Porter
2013-10-22 6:47 ` David Brown
2013-10-21 8:54 ` Thierry Reding
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2013-10-21 20:19 ` Stephen Warren
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2013-10-21 22:51 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Guenter Roeck
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2013-10-22 10:27 ` James Hogan
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2013-10-22 16:31 ` Jonathan Cameron
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2013-10-22 16:49 ` Guenter Roeck
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2013-10-22 20:35 ` Thierry Reding
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2013-10-23 7:57 ` Thierry Reding
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2013-10-23 16:01 ` Guenter Roeck
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2013-10-23 21:07 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 15:18 ` Guenter Roeck
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2013-11-01 10:36 ` Thierry Reding
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2013-11-01 13:30 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-22 20:48 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 10:25 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 21:44 ` Matt Sealey
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2013-10-23 11:41 ` Peter Maydell
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2013-10-23 23:02 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Rob Herring
2013-11-18 12:26 ` Thierry Reding
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2013-11-18 13:40 ` Grant Likely
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2013-11-18 13:57 ` Mark Brown
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2013-11-18 16:06 ` Thierry Reding
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2013-11-18 17:16 ` Stephen Warren
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2013-11-19 17:27 ` Stephen Warren
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