From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Matt Porter Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] ARM topic: Is DT on ARM the solution, or is there something better? Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:52:19 -0400 Message-ID: <20131024195219.GY29341@beef> References: <20131023174458.GC5208@netboy> <1382553982.31058.10.camel@sakura.staff.proxad.net> <20131024095232.27BBCC4039D@trevor.secretlab.ca> <1382614439.6040.16.camel@sakura.staff.proxad.net> <1382615278.8522.72.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> <1382616801.6040.26.camel@sakura.staff.proxad.net> <3726fd81259f84ef308ba9011ae35174.squirrel@twosheds.infradead.org> <1382619952.6040.57.camel@sakura.staff.proxad.net> <1382622360.6040.79.camel@sakura.staff.proxad.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1382622360.6040.79.camel-MdnFuL0m/hCw+z8RR+d9WEZ2mhrpEnA6@public.gmane.org> Sender: devicetree-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org To: Maxime Bizon Cc: David Woodhouse , "devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org" , "ksummit-2013-discuss-cunTk1MwBs98uUxBSJOaYoYkZiVZrdSR2LY78lusg7I@public.gmane.org" , Nicolas Pitre , Grant Likely , Thierry Reding , "linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org" , Jason Gunthorpe List-Id: devicetree@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 03:46:00PM +0200, Maxime Bizon wrote: > > On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 13:14 +0000, David Woodhouse wrote: > > > If DMA gives a performance boost for all workloads, what bloody idiot > > defined or reviewed a DT binding that didn't include the information which > > who defined it: > - hobbyist programmer without DMA knowledge > - hobbyist programmer without time > - hobbyist programmer without datasheet access > - SOC-vendor employed programmer with deadline > > who reviewed it: > - someone without time > - someone without datasheet access > - no-one (programmer was part of DT team :) One more for each list: - professional programmer without datasheet access I don't have docs for the parts I'm paid to work on. There's lots of reasons why we don't know *all* information on day 0 and the notion of binding perfection is flawed. -Matt -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html