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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: Hiroshi Doyu <hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCHv4 2/7] driver/core: Populate IOMMU'able devices in order
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 17:31:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131113173142.GF11928@mudshark.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131113.180610.823304139654159769.hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 04:06:10PM +0000, Hiroshi Doyu wrote:
> Will Deacon <will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org> wrote @ Wed, 13 Nov 2013 15:38:04 +0100:
> 
> > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:34:20PM +0000, Stephen Warren wrote:
> > > SMMU:
> > >     smmu: smmu@xxxxxx {
> > >         #smmu-cells = <1>;
> > >     }
> > > 
> > > Affected device:
> > >     smmus = <&smmu 1>;
> > >     (perhaps with smmu-names too)
> > > 
> > > That would allow the DT to represent basically arbitrary HW configurations.
> > > 
> > > The implementation of this patch would then be almost as trivial; you'd
> > > just need to walk the smmus property to find each phandle in turn, just
> > > like any other phandle+specifier property, and validate that the SMMU
> > > driver was already probe()d for each.
> > 
> > There are a few problems with that:
> > 
> >   1.) It assumes all devices sharing an SMMU have the same number of
> >       "smmu cells"
> 
> This can be solved with introducing the fixed size of bitmap. The size
> of bitmap can be fixed even per SoC. In tegra we used 64(2 cells)
> which I expect at most.

That really doesn't sound like a good idea where you have bridges (like a
PCIe host controller) which could have a significant chunk of StreamID
space. You'd also need to pad everything out with some dummy IDs for parsing
purposes. Yuck!

> >   2.) It moves SMMU-specific data out to the device, which makes it
> >       impossible to describe more complicated topologies where IDs can be
> >       remapped/remastered, potentially by multiple SMMUs and/or bus bridges.
> > 
> > When writing the binding for the ARM SMMU driver, I originally started with
> > something similar to what you're suggesting, but was later forced down a
> > different route when I realised what sort of systems were being built.
> > 
> > We will have similar problems for PCIe RIDs and GIC DIDs (I spoke about this
> > at the ARM mini-summit). They are not fixed across the system: they
> > originate from a device, but can change as they traverse the system
> > topology.
> 
> Is there any chance to overwrite SMMU driver specific params during
> setting up topologies?

Not sure I understand what you're getting at here. Could you elaborate
please?

Will

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-11-13 17:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-11  8:31 [PATCHv4 0/7] Unifying SMMU driver among Tegra SoCs Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found] ` <1384158718-4756-1-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-11  8:31   ` [PATCHv4 1/7] ARM: tegra: Create a DT header defining SWGROUP ID Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]     ` <1384158718-4756-2-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-12 22:48       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <5282B036.9090604-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-15 10:29           ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]             ` <20131115122926.9166a6693bb9378a7f2c1526-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-15 16:44               ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-11  8:31   ` [PATCHv4 2/7] driver/core: Populate IOMMU'able devices in order Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]     ` <1384158718-4756-3-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-11 11:39       ` Will Deacon
     [not found]         ` <20131111113936.GH28302-MRww78TxoiP5vMa5CHWGZ34zcgK1vI+I0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-12 23:30           ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-12 23:34       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <5282BAFC.8070405-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13  7:23           ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]             ` <20131113092354.5b65f29bacc4f37083f81e2e-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13 17:49               ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-13 14:38           ` Will Deacon
     [not found]             ` <20131113143804.GA11928-MRww78TxoiP5vMa5CHWGZ34zcgK1vI+I0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13 16:06               ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]                 ` <20131113.180610.823304139654159769.hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13 17:31                   ` Will Deacon [this message]
     [not found]                     ` <20131113173142.GF11928-MRww78TxoiP5vMa5CHWGZ34zcgK1vI+I0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13 17:53                       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                         ` <5283BCA0.40300-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-14 16:16                           ` Will Deacon
2013-11-13 17:45               ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-11  8:31   ` [PATCHv4 3/7] iommu/tegra: smmu: Register IOMMU'able devices dynamically Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]     ` <1384158718-4756-4-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-12 23:53       ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-12 23:58       ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-11  8:31   ` [PATCHv4 4/7] iommu/tegra: smmu: Calculate ASID register offset by ID Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]     ` <1384158718-4756-5-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13  0:02       ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-11  8:31   ` [PATCHv4 5/7] iommu/tegra: smmu: Support "mmu-masters" binding Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]     ` <1384158718-4756-6-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-11 11:35       ` Will Deacon
     [not found]         ` <20131111113510.GG28302-MRww78TxoiP5vMa5CHWGZ34zcgK1vI+I0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-11 12:03           ` Hiroshi Doyu
2013-11-13  0:17       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <5282C512.5090900-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13  7:45           ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]             ` <20131113094517.4608edf4302b61e3c4402a25-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13 17:58               ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                 ` <5283BDBF.9020509-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-14  6:41                   ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]                     ` <20131114.084145.998129499909471378.hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-14 16:59                       ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-13 11:15       ` Kumar Gala
2013-11-11  8:31   ` [PATCHv4 6/7] iommu/tegra: smmu: Rename hwgrp -> swgroups Hiroshi Doyu
2013-11-11  8:31   ` [PATCHv4 7/7] iommu/tegra: smmu: Allow duplicate ASID wirte Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]     ` <1384158718-4756-8-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13  0:27       ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-12 22:40   ` [PATCHv4 0/7] Unifying SMMU driver among Tegra SoCs Stephen Warren
     [not found]     ` <5282AE55.1040701-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13  6:04       ` Hiroshi Doyu

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