From: Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Strange location and name for platform devices when device-tree is used.
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 16:44:16 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131115074416.4DA8DC40828@trevor.secretlab.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131102104505.34105cbb@notabene.brown>
On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 10:45:05 +1100, NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de> wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 10:10:25 +1100 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
> <benh@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 2013-11-01 at 13:47 -0700, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> >
> > > > > On my device I seem to have some platform devices registered through
> > > > > device-tree, and some registered through platform_device_add (e.g.
> > > > > 'alarmtimer'). Guaranteeing they remain disjoint sets if the kernel is
> > > > > allowed to evolve independently of the devicetree might be tricky....
> > > > > Maybe we need "/sys/devices/platform" and "/sys/devices/dt_platform" ??
> > > >
> > > > No, I think device-tree created platform devices should go
> > > > to /sys/devices/platform like the "classic" ones.
> > > >
> > > > The problem is really how to deal with potential name duplication. We
> > > > could try to register, if we get -EEXIST (assuming sysfs returns the
> > > > right stuff), try again with ".1" etc...
> > >
> > > How can there be device name collisions? All platform devices _should_
> > > be named uniquely, if not, you have bigger problems...
> >
> > The problem is how to create a unique name for a platform device created
> > from a device-tree node.
> >
> > Device tree nodes aren't necessarily uniquely named. They are unique
> > under a given parent but that hierarchy isn't preserved when creating
> > corresponding platform devices (and it would be very tricky to do so).
> >
> > Currently, we simply append a number to the name when creating them,
> > which is obtained from a global counter.
> >
> > Neil is unhappy about that because on his specific hardware, the device
> > has a unique name and thus we introduce a naming difference between
> > device-tree usage and old-style "hard coded" board file usage.
>
> It occurs to me that a different approach could solve my problem.
>
> My problem stems from the fact that the name of the device on the
> platform-bus is used as the name of the device in the "backlight" class.
>
> As Greg writes elsewhere, depending on names with /sys/devices is not
> supported - we need to accept that bus-names might change.
> However names in class devices tend to be a lot more stable.
> Several devices allow these to be explicitly set.
> leds have 'label'
> regulators has "regulator-name"
> gpio-keys has 'label'.
>
> I could just teach pwm_bl to allow a 'label' property which would be used in
> place of the platform-bus device name when creating the class/backlight
> device.
>
> The maxim "you cannot trust names to remain stable in /sys/devices" can
> justify both the movement of platform devices into /sys/devices/platform, and
> the use of "label" rather than the device-name for creating the class device.
>
> Does that sound convincing?
The problem with a property in the node in this case is that there is no
guarantee of uniqueness. An alternative however would be to look for an
alias in /aliases. Those are unique.
g.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-15 7:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-01 3:59 Strange location and name for platform devices when device-tree is used NeilBrown
2013-11-01 4:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-01 4:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-01 5:03 ` NeilBrown
2013-11-01 5:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-01 18:04 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-01 20:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-15 7:37 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <20131101180459.81793C40A28-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-01 20:48 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-11-01 20:47 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <20131101204749.GA19662-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-01 23:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-02 15:58 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <20131102155824.GG23938-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-02 20:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-02 20:40 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <20131102204021.GA13994-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-03 21:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-03 21:09 ` NeilBrown
2013-11-01 23:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-01 23:45 ` NeilBrown
[not found] ` <20131102104505.34105cbb-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-04 8:56 ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-15 7:44 ` Grant Likely [this message]
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