From: Olof Johansson <olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
To: Richard Cochran <richardcochran-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
Jon Masters <jonathan-Zp4isUonpHBD60Wz+7aTrA@public.gmane.org>,
devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
grant.likely-s3s/WqlpOiPyB63q8FvJNQ@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: ACPI vs DT at runtime
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 10:48:27 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131119184827.GD20967@quad.lixom.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131119091216.GA4412@netboy>
[Adding Grant]
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:12:17AM +0100, Richard Cochran wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:13:36AM -0800, Olof Johansson wrote:
> >
> > I know people have been frustrated that they need to keep the DT in sync with
> > the kernel. But we've always been upfront with the requirement, and why we've
> > been having it. We're now changing this requirement, which should help sort out
> > practically all of the concerns at hand.
>
> Sorry, but this really gets my goat. When have you been upfront about
> the unstable DT idea?
As I said, from the very beginning. It's why we decided to have the DTS hosted
in the kernel tree as well. The approach has always been "we'll move it out
eventually when things settle down", but that's always been pushed off so far.
This is just a tangent and a distraction anyway: You should know by
now that we've decided to keep backwards compatibility going forward,
so any argument about why we did it differently before is leading nowhere.
-Olof
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2013-11-15 1:44 ACPI vs DT at runtime Olof Johansson
2013-11-15 9:57 ` Mark Rutland
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[not found] ` <20131115095717.GC1709-NuALmloUBlrZROr8t4l/smS4ubULX0JqMm0uRHvK7Nw@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-15 17:52 ` Olof Johansson
[not found] ` <20131115175241.GB27174-O5ziIzlqnXUVNXGz7ipsyg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-15 18:08 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20131115180832.GR16735-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-15 18:42 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-15 19:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <201311152056.47846.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-15 23:21 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20131115232109.GT16735-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 15:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <201311181605.37300.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 15:19 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-18 15:46 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-21 16:10 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <20131121161037.C528CC406A3-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-21 18:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-21 19:40 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20131118151900.GF16735@ n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
[not found] ` <20131118151900.GF16735-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-21 16:11 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 16:00 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-19 11:30 ` Mark Rutland
2013-11-19 11:35 ` Mark Rutland
[not found] ` <20131119113557.GI5914-NuALmloUBlrZROr8t4l/smS4ubULX0JqMm0uRHvK7Nw@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-19 11:51 ` Leif Lindholm
[not found] ` <20131119113015.GH5914-NuALmloUBlrZROr8t4l/smS4ubULX0JqMm0uRHvK7Nw@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-19 11:57 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-19 13:56 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-19 14:38 ` Mark Rutland
[not found] ` <20131119143840.GN5914-NuALmloUBlrZROr8t4l/smS4ubULX0JqMm0uRHvK7Nw@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-19 14:59 ` Leif Lindholm
2013-11-19 18:23 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-19 14:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-19 15:21 ` Mark Rutland
[not found] ` <20131119152157.GO5914-NuALmloUBlrZROr8t4l/smS4ubULX0JqMm0uRHvK7Nw@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-19 16:19 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-19 18:34 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-19 19:06 ` Tom Rini
2013-11-19 18:19 ` Olof Johansson
[not found] ` <20131119181959.GA20967-O5ziIzlqnXUVNXGz7ipsyg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-21 16:37 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 16:29 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <20131121170122. GB22960@srcf.ucam.org>
[not found] ` <20131121170122.GB22960-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-21 18:38 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <20131121162944.F087FC406A3-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-21 17:01 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-11-21 17:58 ` Olof Johansson
[not found] ` <20131121175822.GA9590-O5ziIzlqnXUVNXGz7ipsyg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-21 18:19 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-11-21 18:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-21 18:54 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20131121185408.GX16735-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-21 18:59 ` Olof Johansson
[not found] ` <CAOesGMgzUSMDy99XojipfRd5OM88UhfbCYO0aoc5m-Q8Fwnddg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-21 19:01 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20131121190126.GZ16735-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-21 19:31 ` Olof Johansson
[not found] ` < CAOesGMgzUSMDy99XojipfRd5OM88UhfbCYO0aoc5m-Q8Fwnddg@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` < 20131121190126.GZ16735@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
[not found] ` < CAOesGMgxGq1Zmo+Dq-Rmy2F02-=12yUzB0AKn35yK2j3CacNRQ@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <CAOesGMgxGq1Zmo+Dq-Rmy2F02-=12yUzB0AKn35yK2j3CacNRQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-21 20:44 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 18:53 ` Mark Brown
2013-11-18 17:47 ` Jon Masters
2013-11-15 18:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20131115182826.GB14920-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-15 18:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-20 13:49 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <20131120134942.95DBFC4079D-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-20 17:43 ` Stefano Stabellini
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1311201737410.3198-7Z66fg9igcxYtxbxJUhB2Dgeux46jI+i@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-20 17:47 ` Olof Johansson
[not found] ` <5289A356.4060004@jonmasters.org>
[not found] ` <5289A356.4060004-Zp4isUonpHBD60Wz+7aTrA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 19:09 ` Olof Johansson
[not found] ` <20131118190929.GA5886-O5ziIzlqnXUVNXGz7ipsyg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 20:54 ` Jon Masters
[not found] ` <528A7EA0.9050101-Zp4isUonpHBD60Wz+7aTrA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 21:50 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 21:32 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <201311182247.03540.david.goodenough@btconnect.com>
2013-11-19 12:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <20131118150052.GC24408@sirena.org.uk>
[not found] ` <20131118150052.GC24408-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 19:13 ` Olof Johansson
[not found] ` <20131118191336.GB5886-O5ziIzlqnXUVNXGz7ipsyg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-19 9:12 ` Richard Cochran
2013-11-19 18:48 ` Olof Johansson [this message]
[not found] ` <20131119184827.GD20967-O5ziIzlqnXUVNXGz7ipsyg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-20 6:40 ` Richard Cochran
2013-11-21 18:16 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 19:21 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` < 20131121192136.GA16735@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
[not found] ` <20131121192136.GA16735-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-21 20:47 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <20131121204704.E4487C40753-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-22 11:43 ` Catalin Marinas
[not found] ` <CAHkRjk5MstjD9JFk+co8k89i8geJBmSF6uObhGdmWSe0GJHo8g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-22 12:00 ` Pantelis Antoniou
[not found] ` <97692EF2-013E-4E4B-BC16-E0915D67EFEC-wVdstyuyKrO8r51toPun2/C9HSW9iNxf@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-05 7:06 ` Alexander Holler
[not found] ` <53673866.9000105-SXC+2es9fhnfWeYVQQPykw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-05 14:41 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-05 15:29 ` Alexander Holler
[not found] ` <5367AE6B.3010105-SXC+2es9fhnfWeYVQQPykw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-05 17:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-06 15:37 ` Grant Likely
2014-05-06 15:27 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <20140506152725.E5B90C40959-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-06 16:32 ` Olof Johansson
[not found] ` <5289A4F3.5040203@jonmasters.org>
[not found] ` <5289A4F3.5040203-Zp4isUonpHBD60Wz+7aTrA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 19:25 ` Olof Johansson
[not found] ` <20131118192552.GD5886-O5ziIzlqnXUVNXGz7ipsyg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 20:43 ` Jon Masters
[not found] ` <528A7BFD.4020303-Zp4isUonpHBD60Wz+7aTrA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 21:25 ` Olof Johansson
[not found] ` <CAOesGMjKeRb=fFJM0MabDihbEiCGM4EqW9D5i_6-RFxTnpB4Qw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-15 20:58 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <201311152158.32644.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-15 21:44 ` Olof Johansson
[not found] ` <CAOesGMhkCn2zeJj_ZZAZu_wJya-4evWEqNHpVJEpjxzWHVWY3A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-17 17:18 ` Stefano Stabellini
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1311171705130.4714-7Z66fg9igcxYtxbxJUhB2Dgeux46jI+i@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-17 18:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-17 22:20 ` Olof Johansson
[not found] ` <CAOesGMiYyOcvr3Aqs-p8zc=XDwJM9NZtNxtxrTZssc6F=siZCw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 8:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <528A4F5F.7080104@jonmasters.org>
[not found] ` <528A4F5F.7080104-Zp4isUonpHBD60Wz+7aTrA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 19:21 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 15:04 ` Mark Brown
2013-11-18 15:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` < 201311181610.33105.arnd@arndb.de>
[not found] ` <201311181610.33105.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 21:38 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-18 23:25 ` Leif Lindholm
[not found] ` <20131118232536.GF1567-GZEopFhza0F985/tl1ce8aaDwS/vmuI7@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 23:29 ` Olof Johansson
[not found] ` <CAOesGMh373ZsLzoGHJm+xV3uFVjh2CBSA8SXY4PA+VxL3a5W1w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 23:34 ` Leif Lindholm
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