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From: Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>
To: Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kishon@ti.com>
Cc: balbi@ti.com, bcousson@baylibre.com, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/10] usb: dwc3: use quirks to know if a particualr platform doesn't have PHY
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 09:58:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131205075828.GA32583@xps8300> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52A01E86.50406@ti.com>

Hi,

On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 12:04:46PM +0530, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 December 2013 08:10 PM, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 03:31:24PM +0530, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
> >> There can be systems which does not have an external phy, so get
> >> phy only if no quirks are added that indicates the PHY is not present.
> >> Introduced two quirk flags to indicate the *absence* of usb2 phy and
> >> usb3 phy. Also remove checking if return value is -ENXIO since it's now
> >> changed to always enable usb_phy layer.
> > 
> > Can you guys explain why is something like this needed? Like with
> > clocks and gpios, the device drivers shouldn't need to care any more
> > if the platform has the phys or not. -ENODEV tells you your platform
> 
> Shouldn't we report if a particular platform needs a PHY and not able to get
> it. How will a user know if a particular controller is not working because it's
> not able to get and initialize the PHYs? Don't you think in such cases it's
> better to fail (and return from probe) because the controller will not work
> anyway without the PHY?

My point is that you do not need to separately tell this to the driver
like you do with the quirks (if you did, then you would need to fix
your framework and not hack the drivers).

Like I said, ENODEV tells you that there is no phy on this platform
for you, allowing you to safely continue. If your phy driver is not
loaded, the framework already returns EPROBE_DEFER, right. Any other
error when getting the phy you can consider critical. They are the
errors telling you that you do need a phy on this platform, but
something actually went wrong when getting it.

Those "quirks" should always be avoided, and I don't see any use for
them here.

> Thanks
> Kishon

Thanks,

-- 
heikki

  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-05  7:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-25 10:01 [PATCH v3 00/10] Make dwc3 use Generic PHY Framework Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-11-25 10:01 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] usb: dwc3: invoke phy_resume after phy_init Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-11-25 10:01 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] usb: dwc3: power off usb phy in error path Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-11-25 10:01 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] usb: dwc3: preparation for adapting dwc3 to generic phy framework Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-11-25 10:01 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] usb: dwc3: use quirks to know if a particualr platform doesn't have PHY Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-11-25 21:21   ` Felipe Balbi
2013-12-04 14:40   ` Heikki Krogerus
2013-12-05  6:34     ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-12-05  7:58       ` Heikki Krogerus [this message]
2013-12-09  7:13         ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-12-09  9:26           ` Heikki Krogerus
2013-12-11  8:53             ` Heikki Krogerus
2013-12-11  9:07               ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-11-25 10:01 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] usb: dwc3: adapt dwc3 core to use Generic PHY Framework Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-11-25 10:01 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] Documentation: dt bindings: move ..usb/usb-phy.txt to ..phy/ti-phy.txt Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-11-25 10:01 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] drivers: phy: usb3/pipe3: Adapt pipe3 driver to Generic PHY Framework Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-12-06 14:35   ` Roger Quadros
2013-12-10 14:40     ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-11-25 10:01 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] usb: phy: omap-usb2: remove *set_suspend* callback from omap-usb2 Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-11-25 10:01 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] phy: omap-usb2: move omap_usb.h from linux/usb/ to linux/phy/ Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-11-25 10:01 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] arm/dts: added dt properties to adapt to the new phy framwork Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found] ` <1385373690-12170-1-git-send-email-kishon-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-21 10:11   ` [PATCH 1/2] usb: dwc3: core: continue probing if usb phy library returns -ENODEV/-ENXIO Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found]     ` <1390299099-14764-1-git-send-email-kishon-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-21 10:11       ` [PATCH v4 2/2] usb: dwc3: adapt dwc3 core to use Generic PHY Framework Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2014-01-21 14:00         ` Roger Quadros
2014-01-22  6:04           ` Vivek Gautam
2014-01-22  7:59             ` Roger Quadros
2014-01-22 10:14               ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2014-01-21 13:53       ` [PATCH 1/2] usb: dwc3: core: continue probing if usb phy library returns -ENODEV/-ENXIO Roger Quadros
2014-01-21 14:47     ` Felipe Balbi
2014-01-24 14:09       ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found]       ` <20140121144725.GF30451-HgARHv6XitL9zxVx7UNMDg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-27 15:08         ` Heikki Krogerus
2014-01-27 16:05           ` Felipe Balbi
2014-01-28 15:32             ` Heikki Krogerus
2014-01-28 16:30               ` Felipe Balbi
2014-01-29 14:47                 ` Heikki Krogerus
2014-02-12  9:46                   ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found]                     ` <52FB42DE.4090203-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 12:37                       ` Roger Quadros
2014-02-21 12:25                         ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2014-02-21 12:29                           ` Roger Quadros
2014-02-24  9:51                             ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2014-02-24 11:05                               ` Roger Quadros
2014-02-24 14:24                                 ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2014-02-24 15:49                               ` Felipe Balbi
2014-02-24  9:55                             ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I

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