From: Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel.garcia-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>,
Jason Gunthorpe
<jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
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Wim Van Sebroeck <wim-IQzOog9fTRqzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>,
Jason Cooper <jason-NLaQJdtUoK4Be96aLqz0jA@public.gmane.org>,
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Gregory Clement
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Lior Amsalem <alior-eYqpPyKDWXRBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
Sebastian Hesselbarth
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Andrew Lunn <andrew-g2DYL2Zd6BY@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 05/19] watchdog: orion: Make sure the watchdog is initially stopped
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 12:17:28 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140207151727.GB8218@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52F4E1C1.4010805-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 05:38:09AM -0800, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On 02/07/2014 02:40 AM, Ezequiel Garcia wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 06:02:56PM -0800, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> >> On 02/06/2014 09:20 AM, Ezequiel Garcia wrote:
> >>> Having the watchdog initially fully stopped is important to avoid
> >>> any spurious watchdog triggers, in case the registers are not in
> >>> its reset state.
> >>>
> >>> Reviewed-by: Guenter Roeck <linux-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
> >>> Tested-by: Sebastian Hesselbarth <sebastian.hesselbarth-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> >>> Tested-by: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel.garcia-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTGGXanvQGlWp@public.gmane.orgm>
> >>> ---
> >>> drivers/watchdog/orion_wdt.c | 3 +++
> >>> 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/drivers/watchdog/orion_wdt.c b/drivers/watchdog/orion_wdt.c
> >>> index 6746033..2dbeee9 100644
> >>> --- a/drivers/watchdog/orion_wdt.c
> >>> +++ b/drivers/watchdog/orion_wdt.c
> >>> @@ -142,6 +142,9 @@ static int orion_wdt_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
> >>> orion_wdt.max_timeout = wdt_max_duration;
> >>> watchdog_init_timeout(&orion_wdt, heartbeat, &pdev->dev);
> >>>
> >>> + /* Let's make sure the watchdog is fully stopped */
> >>> + orion_wdt_stop(&orion_wdt);
> >>> +
> >>
> >> Actually we just had that in another driver, and I stumbled over it there.
> >>
> >> Problem with stopping the watchdog in probe unconditionally is that you can
> >> use it to defeat nowayout: unload the module, then load it again,
> >> and the watchdog is stopped even if nowayout is true.
> >>
> >
> > Hm... I see.
> >
> >> Is this really what you want ? Or, in other words, what is the problem
> >> you are trying to solve ?
> >>
> >
> > Well, this is related to the discussion about the bootloader not
> > reseting the watchdog properly, provoking spurious watchdog triggering.
> >
> > Jason Gunthorpe explained [1] that we needed a particular sequence:
> >
> > 1. Disable WDT
> > 2. Clear bridge
> > 3. Enable WDT
> >
> > We added the irq handling to satisfy (2), and the watchdog stop for (1).
> >
> > The watchdog stop was agreed specifically [2].
> >
> > Ideas?
> >
>
> Other drivers assume that if the watchdog is running, it is supposed
> to be running. The more common approach in such cases is to ping the
> watchdog once to give userspace more time to get ready, but leave
> it enabled. So you could check if the watchdog is enabled, and if
> it was enabled re-enable it after initialization is complete
> (and maybe log a message stating that the watchdog is enabled).
>
> If you don't want to do that, and if you are defeating nowayout
> on purpose to fix a problem with a broken bootloader,
> you should at least put in comment describing the problem you are
> trying to solve, and that you accept breaking nowayout with your fix.
>
I'm not fond of not having "nowayout" option on our driver, given I'm sure
it's a watchdog feature for a good reason.
On the other side, I can't see how can we distinguish a previously
and explicitly enabled watchdog, from a spurious enable by broken bootloader.
Jason, what do you say?
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Ezequiel García, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android Engineering
http://free-electrons.com
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Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-02-06 17:20 [PATCH v6 00/19] Armada 370/XP watchdog Ezequiel Garcia
[not found] ` <1391707226-18258-1-git-send-email-ezequiel.garcia-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-06 17:20 ` [PATCH v6 01/19] clocksource: orion: Use atomic access for shared registers Ezequiel Garcia
[not found] ` <1391707226-18258-2-git-send-email-ezequiel.garcia-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-11 0:06 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <52F96993.9090007-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-11 8:30 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-11 9:11 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <52F9E947.5020004-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-11 9:47 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-19 15:01 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-06 17:20 ` [PATCH v6 02/19] watchdog: orion: Add clock error handling Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-06 17:20 ` [PATCH v6 03/19] watchdog: orion: Use atomic access for shared registers Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-06 17:20 ` [PATCH v6 04/19] watchdog: orion: Remove unused macros Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-06 17:20 ` [PATCH v6 05/19] watchdog: orion: Make sure the watchdog is initially stopped Ezequiel Garcia
[not found] ` <1391707226-18258-6-git-send-email-ezequiel.garcia-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-07 2:02 ` Guenter Roeck
[not found] ` <52F43ED0.4050808-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-07 10:40 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-07 13:38 ` Guenter Roeck
[not found] ` <52F4E1C1.4010805-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-07 15:17 ` Ezequiel Garcia [this message]
2014-02-07 15:44 ` Jason Cooper
[not found] ` <20140207154453.GA8533-u4khhh1J0LxI1Ri9qeTfzeTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-07 16:55 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-02-07 17:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20140207174314.GB16263-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-10 12:22 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-10 16:48 ` linux-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ
[not found] ` <20140210104850.48324szjwjihb7cw-S15kz1ZIOvSoVoj5zvVkGw@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-10 16:54 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-10 16:57 ` linux-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ
2014-02-06 17:20 ` [PATCH v6 06/19] watchdog: orion: Handle the interrupt so it's properly acked Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-06 17:20 ` [PATCH v6 07/19] watchdog: orion: Make RSTOUT register a separate resource Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-06 17:20 ` [PATCH v6 08/19] watchdog: orion: Remove unneeded BRIDGE_CAUSE clear Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-06 17:20 ` [PATCH v6 09/19] watchdog: orion: Introduce an orion_watchdog device structure Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-06 17:20 ` [PATCH v6 10/19] watchdog: orion: Introduce per-compatible of_device_id data Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-06 17:20 ` [PATCH v6 11/19] watchdog: orion: Add per-compatible clock initialization Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-06 17:20 ` [PATCH v6 12/19] watchdog: orion: Add per-compatible watchdog start implementation Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-06 17:20 ` [PATCH v6 13/19] watchdog: orion: Add support for Armada 370 and Armada XP SoC Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-06 17:20 ` [PATCH v6 14/19] ARM: mvebu: Enable Armada 370/XP watchdog in the devicetree Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-06 17:20 ` [PATCH v6 15/19] ARM: kirkwood: Add RSTOUT 'reg' entry to devicetree Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-06 17:20 ` [PATCH v6 16/19] ARM: dove: Enable Dove watchdog in the devicetree Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-06 17:20 ` [PATCH v6 17/19] watchdog: orion: Enable the build on ARCH_MVEBU Ezequiel Garcia
[not found] ` <1391707226-18258-18-git-send-email-ezequiel.garcia-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-07 2:07 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-02-06 17:20 ` [PATCH v6 18/19] ARM: mvebu: Enable watchdog support in defconfig Ezequiel Garcia
[not found] ` <1391707226-18258-19-git-send-email-ezequiel.garcia-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-06 17:51 ` Jason Cooper
[not found] ` <20140206175159.GI8533-u4khhh1J0LxI1Ri9qeTfzeTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-06 19:10 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-06 19:12 ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-06 17:20 ` [PATCH v6 19/19] ARM: dove: Enable watchdog support in the defconfig Ezequiel Garcia
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