From: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Warner Losh <wlosh-uzTCJ5RojNnQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Grant Likely
<grant.likely-s3s/WqlpOiPyB63q8FvJNQ@public.gmane.org>,
Olof Johansson <olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>,
Rob Herring <robherring2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Tim Bird <tbird20d-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Jason Cooper <jason-NLaQJdtUoK4Be96aLqz0jA@public.gmane.org>,
Ian Campbell <ijc-KcIKpvwj1kUDXYZnReoRVg@public.gmane.org>,
Pawel Moll <pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
Kumar Gala <galak-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: devicetree repository separation/migration
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 19:16:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140222181623.GK17250@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0F360BC4-77AC-44E4-85FA-A8AAA336BA4D-uzTCJ5RojNnQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 11:27:29AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
>
> On Feb 20, 2014, at 4:38 AM, Grant Likely wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 13:20:15 -0800, Olof Johansson <olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Rob Herring <robherring2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >>> One way to minimize the inconvenience is keep versioning and dev
> >>> cycles in sync with the kernel. We could also start doing things to
> >>> align the kernel workflow with how things will work when we do have a
> >>> separate repository.
> >>
> >> I don't think aligning development cycles is what we want most here it
> >> might be useful for us in Linux but it'll make things difficult for
> >> other projects since they're not aware of our release cycles. The
> >> device tree bindings and DT contents in that repo should be "always
> >> stable", i.e. no merge window / rc concept. As soon as something goes
> >> in it's live, and from then out only fixes to the DTS files (or
> >> appending the binding).
> >>
> >> For example, I don't want to have to track two trees to test against
> >> -- I'll want to keep one repo of the very latest DT files and always
> >> use those to boot any and all boards.
> >
> > This approach does have the subtle side effect that differs from what we
> > discussed in Edinburgh. We've talked about always being able to boot a
> > new kernel on an old devicetree, but not a new devicetree on an old
> > kernel. With a separate board database repo we are going to hit both
> > cases. At least to a limited extent we're going to need older kernels
> > booting with the latest devicetree, and we'll need some rules about how
> > that gets applied.
>
> I wasn't in Edinburgh... Was this at the binary level or at the
> source level? I'm thinking specifically about the move to cpp in the
> back of my mind...
Only the binary compatibility matters. The source can change
without breaking compatibility between kernels and devicetrees.
Sascha
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2014-02-17 18:05 devicetree repository separation/migration Jason Cooper
[not found] ` <20140217180544.GU7862-u4khhh1J0LxI1Ri9qeTfzeTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-18 14:34 ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-18 15:57 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20140218155750.GS17250-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-18 18:18 ` Jason Cooper
[not found] ` < CACxGe6vU3j4-UtUtxBkT=Mf+AeLVxBcWicGqQhcGVZXnEBUkig@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <20140218181854.GB7862-u4khhh1J0LxI1Ri9qeTfzeTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-18 19:09 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <5303AFDC.9010908-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-18 19:22 ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-18 19:47 ` Olof Johansson
[not found] ` <CAOesGMhvoB7vRf3H1kMaL5+MgZ2gJy=ZVNU0gsXVye9S4YGBOg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-18 22:21 ` Olof Johansson
[not found] ` <CAOesGMi8zJXhfj46CLB-_Kk2s4MY9da46DhMoCtRj=zSUiuOGA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-18 22:44 ` Tim Bird
[not found] ` <CA+bK7J5+n2Se4cLv5WjR5B31ej7FdrGjPcjUULNrhb1UQ7=vmA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 9:08 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20140219090854.GW17250-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 20:16 ` Frank Rowand
[not found] ` <53051102.8060801-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 21:15 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <CACxGe6uhA6FMR76WJGVEt44x6bQOC=woCkDr6ZUH30hTd8f2wA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 21:37 ` Frank Rowand
2014-02-20 4:58 ` Frank Rowand
[not found] ` <53058B69.4040502-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-20 8:14 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <CACxGe6ugF2_kzDPLdv-Z1LUnkX4DHq9R45o64kJHVBSQjWFiNg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-20 9:38 ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-20 21:15 ` Frank Rowand
2014-02-21 18:22 ` Warner Losh
[not found] ` <7F6C2FEA-D330-4CFA-8DC2-554DB8908EC6-uzTCJ5RojNnQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-21 21:04 ` Frank Rowand
2014-02-19 21:12 ` Rob Herring
[not found] ` <CAL_JsqJG+OXbT7sMiHV2dCx+nf--RidL8MmMd=dy6_gAa0yYcg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 21:20 ` Olof Johansson
[not found] ` <CAOesGMiHOwSYTCUaptacN=_pbXnObU5gqpxQHQ+kRTaW-ow3rA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-20 9:40 ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-20 11:38 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <20140220113832.D9E13C4050F-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-21 18:27 ` Warner Losh
[not found] ` <0F360BC4-77AC-44E4-85FA-A8AAA336BA4D-uzTCJ5RojNnQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-22 18:16 ` Sascha Hauer [this message]
2014-02-21 18:57 ` Olof Johansson
2014-02-20 14:34 ` Rob Herring
2014-02-19 21:32 ` Frank Rowand
[not found] ` <530522F8.8050102-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-20 15:01 ` Rob Herring
2014-02-19 9:22 ` Sascha Hauer
2014-02-19 18:32 ` Jason Cooper
[not found] ` <20140219183221.GO7862-u4khhh1J0LxI1Ri9qeTfzeTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 20:23 ` Warner Losh
[not found] ` <FC8FF4FE-E9F5-4C17-BF3A-01ADAA1584D7-uzTCJ5RojNnQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-20 9:50 ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-18 22:14 ` Frank Rowand
[not found] ` <5303DB5B.2090505-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 18:46 ` Jason Cooper
[not found] ` <20140219184626.GP7862-u4khhh1J0LxI1Ri9qeTfzeTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 20:18 ` Frank Rowand
[not found] ` <5305119F.2070405-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-20 9:49 ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-19 20:28 ` Warner Losh
2014-02-19 8:32 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20140219083232.GV17250-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 18:50 ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-19 21:09 ` Grant Likely
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2014-02-19 21:43 ` Warner Losh
2014-02-20 11:39 ` Grant Likely
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2014-02-21 18:28 ` Warner Losh
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2014-02-20 11:39 ` Grant Likely
2014-02-21 1:07 ` Frank Rowand
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2014-02-21 14:11 ` Sascha Hauer
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2014-02-21 18:47 ` Olof Johansson
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2014-02-28 8:00 ` Sascha Hauer
2014-02-24 15:59 ` Ian Campbell
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2014-02-25 7:26 ` Sascha Hauer
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2014-02-25 7:36 ` Ian Campbell
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2014-02-26 9:00 ` Ian Campbell
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2014-02-26 9:18 ` Sascha Hauer
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2014-03-01 21:04 ` Grant Likely
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