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From: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Warner Losh <wlosh-uzTCJ5RojNnQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Grant Likely
	<grant.likely-s3s/WqlpOiPyB63q8FvJNQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Olof Johansson <olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Herring <robherring2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Tim Bird <tbird20d-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Jason Cooper <jason-NLaQJdtUoK4Be96aLqz0jA@public.gmane.org>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc-KcIKpvwj1kUDXYZnReoRVg@public.gmane.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Kumar Gala <galak-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Landley <rob-VoJi6FS/r0vR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-spec-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	devicetree-compiler-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: devicetree repository separation/migration
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 19:16:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140222181623.GK17250@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0F360BC4-77AC-44E4-85FA-A8AAA336BA4D-uzTCJ5RojNnQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 11:27:29AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
> 
> On Feb 20, 2014, at 4:38 AM, Grant Likely wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 13:20:15 -0800, Olof Johansson <olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Rob Herring <robherring2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >>> One way to minimize the inconvenience is keep versioning and dev
> >>> cycles in sync with the kernel. We could also start doing things to
> >>> align the kernel workflow with how things will work when we do have a
> >>> separate repository.
> >> 
> >> I don't think aligning development cycles is what we want most here it
> >> might be useful for us in Linux but it'll make things difficult for
> >> other projects since they're not aware of our release cycles. The
> >> device tree bindings and DT contents in that repo should be "always
> >> stable", i.e. no merge window / rc concept. As soon as something goes
> >> in it's live, and from then out only fixes to the DTS files (or
> >> appending the binding).
> >> 
> >> For example, I don't want to have to track two trees to test against
> >> -- I'll want to keep one repo of the very latest DT files and always
> >> use those to boot any and all boards.
> > 
> > This approach does have the subtle side effect that differs from what we
> > discussed in Edinburgh.  We've talked about always being able to boot a
> > new kernel on an old devicetree, but not a new devicetree on an old
> > kernel. With a separate board database repo we are going to hit both
> > cases. At least to a limited extent we're going to need older kernels
> > booting with the latest devicetree, and we'll need some rules about how
> > that gets applied.
> 
> I wasn't in Edinburgh...  Was this at the binary level or at the
> source level? I'm thinking specifically about the move to cpp in the
> back of my mind...

Only the binary compatibility matters. The source can change
without breaking compatibility between kernels and devicetrees.

Sascha

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-02-22 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-17 18:05 devicetree repository separation/migration Jason Cooper
     [not found] ` <20140217180544.GU7862-u4khhh1J0LxI1Ri9qeTfzeTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-18 14:34   ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-18 15:57   ` Sascha Hauer
     [not found]     ` <20140218155750.GS17250-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-18 18:18       ` Jason Cooper
     [not found]         ` < CACxGe6vU3j4-UtUtxBkT=Mf+AeLVxBcWicGqQhcGVZXnEBUkig@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <20140218181854.GB7862-u4khhh1J0LxI1Ri9qeTfzeTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-18 19:09           ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]             ` <5303AFDC.9010908-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-18 19:22               ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-18 19:47           ` Olof Johansson
     [not found]             ` <CAOesGMhvoB7vRf3H1kMaL5+MgZ2gJy=ZVNU0gsXVye9S4YGBOg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-18 22:21               ` Olof Johansson
     [not found]                 ` <CAOesGMi8zJXhfj46CLB-_Kk2s4MY9da46DhMoCtRj=zSUiuOGA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-18 22:44                   ` Tim Bird
     [not found]                     ` <CA+bK7J5+n2Se4cLv5WjR5B31ej7FdrGjPcjUULNrhb1UQ7=vmA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19  9:08                       ` Sascha Hauer
     [not found]                         ` <20140219090854.GW17250-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 20:16                           ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]                             ` <53051102.8060801-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 21:15                               ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                                 ` <CACxGe6uhA6FMR76WJGVEt44x6bQOC=woCkDr6ZUH30hTd8f2wA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 21:37                                   ` Frank Rowand
2014-02-20  4:58                                   ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]                                     ` <53058B69.4040502-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-20  8:14                                       ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                                         ` <CACxGe6ugF2_kzDPLdv-Z1LUnkX4DHq9R45o64kJHVBSQjWFiNg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-20  9:38                                           ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-20 21:15                                           ` Frank Rowand
2014-02-21 18:22                                       ` Warner Losh
     [not found]                                         ` <7F6C2FEA-D330-4CFA-8DC2-554DB8908EC6-uzTCJ5RojNnQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-21 21:04                                           ` Frank Rowand
2014-02-19 21:12                       ` Rob Herring
     [not found]                         ` <CAL_JsqJG+OXbT7sMiHV2dCx+nf--RidL8MmMd=dy6_gAa0yYcg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 21:20                           ` Olof Johansson
     [not found]                             ` <CAOesGMiHOwSYTCUaptacN=_pbXnObU5gqpxQHQ+kRTaW-ow3rA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-20  9:40                               ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-20 11:38                               ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                                 ` <20140220113832.D9E13C4050F-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-21 18:27                                   ` Warner Losh
     [not found]                                     ` <0F360BC4-77AC-44E4-85FA-A8AAA336BA4D-uzTCJ5RojNnQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-22 18:16                                       ` Sascha Hauer [this message]
2014-02-21 18:57                                   ` Olof Johansson
2014-02-20 14:34                               ` Rob Herring
2014-02-19 21:32                           ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]                             ` <530522F8.8050102-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-20 15:01                               ` Rob Herring
2014-02-19  9:22               ` Sascha Hauer
2014-02-19 18:32               ` Jason Cooper
     [not found]                 ` <20140219183221.GO7862-u4khhh1J0LxI1Ri9qeTfzeTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 20:23                   ` Warner Losh
     [not found]                     ` <FC8FF4FE-E9F5-4C17-BF3A-01ADAA1584D7-uzTCJ5RojNnQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-20  9:50                       ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-18 22:14           ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]             ` <5303DB5B.2090505-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 18:46               ` Jason Cooper
     [not found]                 ` <20140219184626.GP7862-u4khhh1J0LxI1Ri9qeTfzeTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 20:18                   ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]                     ` <5305119F.2070405-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-20  9:49                       ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-19 20:28                   ` Warner Losh
2014-02-19  8:32           ` Sascha Hauer
     [not found]             ` <20140219083232.GV17250-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 18:50               ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-19 21:09           ` Grant Likely
     [not found]             ` <CACxGe6vU3j4-UtUtxBkT=Mf+AeLVxBcWicGqQhcGVZXnEBUkig-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-19 21:43               ` Warner Losh
2014-02-20 11:39                 ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                   ` <20140220113951.612DDC4050F-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-21 18:28                     ` Warner Losh
     [not found]         ` < CAOesGMhvoB7vRf3H1kMaL5+MgZ2gJy=ZVNU0gsXVye9S4YGBOg@mail.gmail.com>
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     [not found]               ` < CAL_JsqJG+OXbT7sMiHV2dCx+nf--RidL8MmMd=dy6_gAa0yYcg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]           ` < 20140219183221.GO7862@titan.lakedaemon.net>
     [not found]             ` < FC8FF4FE-E9F5-4C17-BF3A-01ADAA1584D7@bsdimp.com>
     [not found]               ` <1392889831.23342.11.camel @kazak.uk.xensource.com>
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2014-02-20 11:39                   ` Grant Likely
2014-02-21  1:07   ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]     ` <5306A6C0.9000206-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-21 14:11       ` Sascha Hauer
     [not found]         ` <20140221141136.GI17250-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-21 18:47           ` Olof Johansson
     [not found]             ` <CAOesGMjY2aDLPYLncxHs9gqmWCFy+e4sZK_ET-17qzEU-JwvdQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-28  8:00               ` Sascha Hauer
2014-02-24 15:59           ` Ian Campbell
     [not found]             ` <1393257557.16570.94.camel-ommiHX4a84BXesXXhkcM7miJhflN2719@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-25  7:26               ` Sascha Hauer
     [not found]                 ` <20140225072609.GW17250-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-25  7:36                   ` Ian Campbell
     [not found]                     ` <1393313764.9640.15.camel-ztPmHsLffjjnO4AKDKe2m+kiAK3p4hvP@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-26  9:00                       ` Ian Campbell
     [not found]                         ` <1393405232.16570.106.camel-ommiHX4a84BXesXXhkcM7miJhflN2719@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-26  9:18                           ` Sascha Hauer
     [not found]         ` < CAOesGMjY2aDLPYLncxHs9gqmWCFy+e4sZK_ET-17qzEU-JwvdQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]           ` < 20140228080025.GK24917@pengutronix.de>
     [not found]             ` <20140228080025.GK24917-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-01 21:04               ` Grant Likely

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