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From: Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
Cc: Boris BREZILLON <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>,
	Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, dev@linux-sunxi.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/9] of: mtd: add documentation for the ONFI NAND timing mode property
Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 12:55:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140520195504.GX28907@ld-irv-0074> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140520195140.GA32287@obsidianresearch.com>

On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 01:51:40PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 09:30:33PM +0200, Boris BREZILLON wrote:
> > AFAICT nothing, but the same goes for the ECC requirements, and we've
> > recently added DT bindings to define these requirements.
> > I'm not telling we should drop these ECC requirements bindings (actually
> > I'm using them :-)), but what's different with the timings requirements ?
> 
> ECC requirements are almost always something that has to be matched to
> the bootloader (since the bootloader typicaly reads the NAND to boot),
> so it is sensible to put that in the DT

+1 You beat me to this :)

> The timings are a property of the chip, and if they can be detected
> they should be. IMHO, the main purpose of a DT property would be to
> lower the speed if, for some reason, the board cannot support the
> device's full speed.

Agreed.

Now, we still have the open question of whether we can autodetect timing
modes easily for non-ONFI chips.

> > Indeed, I based it on the ONFI NAND timings mode model, but AFAIK
> > (tell me if I'm wrong), it should work because most of the timings
> > are min requirements.  This means, even if you provide slower
> > signals transitions, the NAND will work as expected.
> 
> IIRC for ONFI a device must always work in the mode 0 timings, without
> requiring a command?

I believe so.

FYI, despite the name of the binding, we are mostly interested in
non-ONFI NAND here.

Brian

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-20 19:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-12 18:07 [PATCH v3 0/9] mtd: nand: add sunxi NAND Flash Controller support Boris BREZILLON
     [not found] ` <1394647664-8258-1-git-send-email-b.brezillon.dev-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-12 18:07   ` [PATCH v3 1/9] mtd: nand: define struct nand_timings Boris BREZILLON
2014-04-30 17:51     ` Brian Norris
2014-05-01 17:36       ` Boris BREZILLON
2014-05-08 14:29       ` Lee Jones
2014-05-09 15:47         ` Boris BREZILLON
2014-05-20 18:13         ` Brian Norris
2014-03-12 18:07   ` [PATCH v3 2/9] mtd: nand: add ONFI timing mode to nand_timings converter Boris BREZILLON
2014-04-30 18:06     ` Brian Norris
     [not found]     ` <1394647664-8258-3-git-send-email-b.brezillon.dev-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-09 17:25       ` Brian Norris
2014-03-12 18:07   ` [PATCH v3 3/9] of: mtd: add NAND timing mode retrieval support Boris BREZILLON
2014-04-30 18:14     ` Brian Norris
2014-03-12 18:07   ` [PATCH v3 4/9] of: mtd: add documentation for the ONFI NAND timing mode property Boris BREZILLON
2014-03-12 18:27     ` Warner Losh
2014-03-12 18:48       ` Boris BREZILLON
     [not found]     ` <1394647664-8258-5-git-send-email-b.brezillon.dev-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-20 18:25       ` Brian Norris
2014-05-20 19:30         ` Boris BREZILLON
2014-05-20 19:51           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-05-20 19:55             ` Brian Norris [this message]
2014-05-20 19:52           ` Brian Norris
2014-05-20 21:32             ` Boris BREZILLON
     [not found]               ` <537BC9D4.6070200-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-09 17:46                 ` Brian Norris
2014-03-12 18:07   ` [PATCH v3 5/9] mtd: nand: add sunxi NAND flash controller support Boris BREZILLON
     [not found]     ` <1394647664-8258-6-git-send-email-b.brezillon.dev-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-09 16:03       ` Ezequiel Garcia
     [not found]         ` <20140509160341.GA6984-nAQHv47ARr+vIlHkl8J1cg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-09 16:47           ` Boris BREZILLON
     [not found]             ` <536D069A.40401-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-09 17:05               ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-05-20 18:49             ` Brian Norris
2014-05-20 19:21               ` Brian Norris
2014-05-20 19:36                 ` Boris BREZILLON
2014-03-12 18:07   ` [PATCH v3 6/9] mtd: nand: add sunxi NFC dt bindings doc Boris BREZILLON
2014-03-12 18:07   ` [PATCH v3 7/9] ARM: dt/sunxi: add NFC node to Allwinner A20 SoC Boris BREZILLON
2014-03-12 18:07   ` [PATCH v3 8/9] ARM: dt/sunxi: add A20 NAND controller pin definitions Boris BREZILLON
2014-03-12 18:07   ` [PATCH v3 9/9] ARM: sunxi/dt: enable NAND on cubietruck board Boris BREZILLON

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