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From: Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Cc: Pantelis Antoniou <pantelis.antoniou@konsulko.com>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	Matt Porter <matt.porter@linaro.org>,
	Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>,
	Alison Chaiken <Alison_Chaiken@mentor.com>,
	Dinh Nguyen <dinh.linux@gmail.com>, Jan Lubbe <jluebbe@lasnet.de>,
	Alexander Sverdlin <alexander.sverdlin@nsn.com>,
	Michael Stickel <ms@mycable.de>,
	Dirk Behme <dirk.behme@gmail.com>,
	Alan Tull <delicious.quinoa@gmail.com>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	Michael Bohan <mbohan@codeaurora.org>,
	Ionut Nicu <ioan.nicu.ext@nsn.com>,
	Michal Simek <monstr@monstr.eu>,
	Matt Ranostay <mranostay@gmail.com>,
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	Pete
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/8] OF: Introduce DT overlay support.
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 01:00:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140526230001.GB32691@earth.universe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53835A40.8050902@roeck-us.net>

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Hi,

On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 08:14:08AM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On 05/26/2014 08:09 AM, Sebastian Reichel wrote:
> >On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 02:55:37PM +0300, Pantelis Antoniou wrote:
> >>On May 26, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Grant Likely wrote:
> >>>On Mon, 26 May 2014 12:57:32 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
> >>>Heeheehee. We're back where we started. The original question is whether
> >>>or not that is a valid approach. If the overlay represents something
> >>>that can be hot plugged/unplugged, then passing it through to the second
> >>>kernel would be the wrong thing to do. If it was a permenant addition,
> >>>then it probably doesn't need to be removed.
> >>>
> >>>We do actually keep the overlay info in memory for the purpose of
> >>>removal exactly so we can support hot unbinding of devices and drivers
> >>>that make use of overlays.
> >>
> >>We can support either method. I am not feeling any wiser about which one should be
> >>the default TBH, so what about exporting a property and let the platform
> >>figure out which is more appropriate?
> >
> >What about supporting "negative" overlays (so an overlay, that
> >removes DT entries)? That way one could reverse apply an overlay.
> >All the dependency stuff would basically be the users problem.  The
> >kernel only checks if it can apply an overlay (and return some error
> >code if it can't). This this code is needed anyway to check the
> >input from userspace.
> >
> 
> Does that mean that I would need to describe such a negative overlay
> for each overlay to be able to get it removed ?
> 
> This would introduce an endless source of problems with bad "reverse"
> overlay descriptions. Sure, that would "be the users problem",
> but I don't think that would make it better.

I was thinking about supporting something like "patch --reverse". So
you can try to undo the overlay by reverse applying it and you can
do it in arbitrary order.

Note: The dependency check must be done for all overlays coming from
userspace, so that's not a problem __here__. The reverse method can
"simply" reverse the overlay patch and apply it like a normal
overlay from userspace (and thus using the same dependency checks).

-- Sebastian

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-26 23:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-04 12:43 [PATCH v4 0/8] Introducing (yet again) Device Tree Overlays Pantelis Antoniou
2014-04-04 12:43 ` [PATCH v4 1/8] OF: Introduce Device Tree resolve support Pantelis Antoniou
     [not found] ` <1396615441-29630-1-git-send-email-pantelis.antoniou-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-04 12:43   ` [PATCH v4 2/8] OF: Introduce DT overlay support Pantelis Antoniou
2014-05-14 10:08     ` Grant Likely
     [not found]       ` <20140514100856.5198DC4153D-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-14 12:11         ` Michael Stickel
     [not found]           ` <53735D88.5090108-g5CePrrZ5ROELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-14 15:49             ` Grant Likely
     [not found]               ` <20140514154907.BC65DC40BD2-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-14 16:13                 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-15  7:14             ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-05-14 13:03         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-14 13:18           ` Guenter Roeck
     [not found]             ` <53736D42.1010302-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-15  7:15               ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-05-14 15:34           ` Grant Likely
2014-05-15  7:12         ` Pantelis Antoniou
     [not found]           ` <E204285C-D6CD-4518-A94F-26BF0570C1B1-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-15  7:20             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]               ` <CAMuHMdUWfQ=2xPhNsS36mT6nv-CfR3_1exZ+5qYgdkjbBntrWg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-16 10:58                 ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                   ` <20140516105814.3EA3FC403C2-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-16 11:52                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-20  5:50                       ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                         ` <20140520055026.E3A98C412DA-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-20  7:38                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]                             ` <CAMuHMdXjWENrq0MW-DU2x7WnaCsWyipN4DO=y0ZTL+3G_fPYGg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-26 10:48                               ` Grant Likely
2014-05-26 10:57                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]                                   ` <CAMuHMdUGdjVKBR5rRzZ274rf7p8XfztNRWEojH1RrZV8c_V1uA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-26 11:08                                     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-05-26 11:23                                   ` Grant Likely
2014-05-26 11:55                                     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-05-26 15:09                                       ` Sebastian Reichel
     [not found]                                         ` <20140526150942.GA26787-SfvFxonMDyemK9LvCR3Hrw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-26 15:14                                           ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-26 23:00                                             ` Sebastian Reichel [this message]
2014-05-26 15:14                                           ` Pantelis Antoniou
     [not found]                                       ` <A6195DFD-0447-4444-AC09-501C43F09924-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-26 21:33                                         ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                                           ` <20140526213303.C1C73C40E11-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-26 21:44                                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-26 23:47                                               ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-27 12:11                                               ` Grant Likely
2014-05-26 22:36                                             ` Sebastian Reichel
     [not found]                                               ` <20140526223630.GA32691-SfvFxonMDyemK9LvCR3Hrw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-26 23:42                                                 ` Guenter Roeck
     [not found]                                                   ` <5383D174.8070304-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-27  0:32                                                     ` Sebastian Reichel
     [not found]                                                       ` <20140527003219.GD32691-SfvFxonMDyemK9LvCR3Hrw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-27  0:54                                                         ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-27 12:12                                                   ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                                                     ` <20140527121236.3B818C40A5A-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-27 12:24                                                       ` Pantelis Antoniou
     [not found]                                                         ` <9CF30A1A-5EB6-401E-A0D5-453CB99B4A83-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-27 15:21                                                           ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-27 15:38                                                             ` Pantelis Antoniou
     [not found]                                                             ` <20140527152115.GA30180-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-27 17:52                                                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-27 18:22                                                                 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-27 20:11                                                         ` Grant Likely
2014-05-20 12:27                           ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-05-15 14:18           ` Grant Likely
2014-04-04 12:43 ` [PATCH v4 3/8] OF: DT-Overlay configfs interface Pantelis Antoniou
2014-04-04 12:43 ` [PATCH v4 4/8] OF: platform: Add overlay bus handler Pantelis Antoniou
2014-04-04 12:43 ` [PATCH v4 5/8] of: i2c: Export single device registration method Pantelis Antoniou
2014-04-04 12:43 ` [PATCH v4 6/8] OF: i2c: Add overlay bus handler Pantelis Antoniou
2014-04-04 12:44 ` [PATCH v4 7/8] OF: spi: " Pantelis Antoniou
2014-04-04 12:44 ` [PATCH v4 8/8] OF: selftest: Add overlay self-test support Pantelis Antoniou

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