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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: Stuart Yoder <stuart.yoder-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Varun Sethi <Varun.Sethi-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] devicetree: Add generic IOMMU device tree bindings
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:04:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140616170416.GA16758@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8b0492b4697943a0b1f276ef42cc8223-ufbTtyGzTTT8GZusEWM6WuO6mTEJWrR4XA4E9RH9d+qIuWR1G4zioA@public.gmane.org>

Hi Stuart,

On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:56:32PM +0100, Stuart Yoder wrote:
> > Do you have use-cases where you really need to change these mappings
> > dynamically?
> 
> Yes.  In the case of a PCI bus-- you may not know in advance how many
> PCI devices there are until you probe the bus.   We have another FSL
> proprietary bus we call the "fsl-mc" bus that is similar.

For that case, though, you could still describe an algorithmic
transformation from RequesterID to StreamID which corresponds to a fixed
mapping.

> Another thing to consider-- starting with SMMUv2, as you know, there
> is a new distributed architecture with multiple TBUs and a centralized
> TCU that walks the SMMU page tables.  So instead of sprinkling multiple
> SMMUs all over an SoC you now have the option a 1 central TCU and sprinkling
> multiple TBUs around.   However, this means that the stream ID namespace
> is now global and can be pretty limited.  In the SMMU implementation we 
> have there are only 64 stream ID total for our Soc.  But we have many more
> masters than that.
> 
> So we look at stream IDs as really corresponding to an 'isolation context'
> and not to a bus master.  An isolation context is the domain you are
> trying to isolate with the SMMU.  Devices that all belong to the same
> 'isolation context' can share the same stream ID, since they share
> the same domain and page tables.

Ok, this is more compelling.

> So, perhaps by default some/most SMMU masters may have a default stream ID
> of 0x0 that is used by the host...and that could be represented
> statically in the device tree.
> 
> But, we absolutely will need to dynamically set new stream IDs
> into masters when a new IOMMU 'domain' is created and devices
> are added to it.   All the devices in a domain will share
> the same stream ID.
> 
> So whatever we do, let's please have an architecture flexible enough
> to allow for this.

What is the software interface to the logic that assigns the StreamIDs? Is
it part of the SMMU, or a separate device (or set of devices)?

Will

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-06-16 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-23 20:33 [PATCH v2] devicetree: Add generic IOMMU device tree bindings Thierry Reding
     [not found] ` <1400877218-4113-1-git-send-email-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 13:16   ` Rob Herring
     [not found]     ` <CAL_JsqKumG1PSFoVfeGpLLG+MjXFeF4aUjun=vv1BJpaxk0Byg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 19:06       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-30 19:29         ` Hiroshi Doyu
2014-05-30 19:54           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-01  9:55             ` Will Deacon
     [not found]               ` <20140601095546.GA8625-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-04 13:39                 ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-04 13:44             ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-04 13:53               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-04 13:56               ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                 ` <20140604135600.GD6644-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-04 14:01                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-04 16:39                     ` Will Deacon
2014-05-30 19:31         ` Rob Herring
     [not found]           ` <CAL_Jsq+tkFNpjSEZboT+o69B_Z3a8e-ZVKaYDmLwtkyYoPy6VQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 19:49             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 10:41               ` Dave Martin
     [not found]                 ` <20140602104104.GD3855-M5GwZQ6tE7x5pKCnmE3YQBJ8xKzm50AiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-04 14:35                   ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-04 16:41                     ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                       ` <20140604164132.GF6644-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-04 21:00                         ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-05 19:10                       ` Varun Sethi
2014-06-16 15:27                         ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                           ` <20140616152739.GS16758-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-16 16:56                             ` Stuart Yoder
     [not found]                               ` <8b0492b4697943a0b1f276ef42cc8223-ufbTtyGzTTT8GZusEWM6WuO6mTEJWrR4XA4E9RH9d+qIuWR1G4zioA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-16 17:04                                 ` Will Deacon [this message]
     [not found]                                   ` <20140616170416.GA16758-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-16 17:30                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-16 18:53                                     ` Stuart Yoder
     [not found]                                       ` <419e67f783524d208ab3be16bcd94bd9-ufbTtyGzTTT8GZusEWM6WuO6mTEJWrR4XA4E9RH9d+qIuWR1G4zioA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-17 10:26                                         ` Varun Sethi
     [not found]                                           ` <0587e1f4894546398be0798d2bc2c84f-AZ66ij2kwaacCcN9WK45f+O6mTEJWrR4XA4E9RH9d+qIuWR1G4zioA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-17 10:43                                             ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                                               ` <20140617104304.GD13808-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-17 11:21                                                 ` Varun Sethi
     [not found]                                                   ` <32165315f0b84be9948f489fd87bf6a9-AZ66ij2kwaacCcN9WK45f+O6mTEJWrR4XA4E9RH9d+qIuWR1G4zioA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-17 14:50                                                     ` Stuart Yoder
2014-06-18  9:29                                                       ` Will Deacon
2014-06-17 14:39                                           ` Stuart Yoder
2014-06-20 23:16         ` Olav Haugan
2014-06-24  9:18           ` Will Deacon
     [not found]             ` <20140624091808.GC26013-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-24 17:57               ` Olav Haugan
2014-06-24 18:11                 ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                   ` <20140624181150.GB4067-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-24 18:20                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-25  9:17                       ` Will Deacon
2014-06-25  9:27                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-25  9:38                           ` Will Deacon
2014-06-25  9:48                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-25  9:57                               ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                                 ` <20140625095735.GI6153-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-25 10:12                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-25 10:14                                     ` Will Deacon
2014-06-24 21:35                     ` Olav Haugan
     [not found]                       ` <53A9EF3A.2070704-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-25  9:18                         ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                           ` <20140625091858.GG6153-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-27 22:23                             ` Olav Haugan
     [not found]                               ` <53ADEEDF.7060902-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-30  9:52                                 ` Will Deacon
2014-07-09  1:07                                   ` Olav Haugan
     [not found]                                     ` <53BC95DA.1010500-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-09 10:54                                       ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                                         ` <20140709105441.GE9485-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-10 22:32                                           ` Olav Haugan
2014-07-11 12:24                                             ` Will Deacon
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-05-23 20:36 Thierry Reding
     [not found] ` <1400877395-4235-1-git-send-email-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-29 15:52   ` Stephen Warren
2014-05-30  7:30     ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-30 11:27       ` Dave Martin
     [not found]         ` <20140530112728.GB3949-M5GwZQ6tE7x5pKCnmE3YQBJ8xKzm50AiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 19:11           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 10:56             ` Dave Martin
2014-06-04 21:12         ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-16 12:57           ` Will Deacon
2014-06-17 11:58             ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-17 12:18               ` Will Deacon
2014-06-17 23:37                 ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-18 10:14                   ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                     ` <20140618101439.GF32699-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-20 15:53                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-20 17:50                         ` Will Deacon
2014-06-20 18:55                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-30 11:22   ` Dave Martin
     [not found]     ` <20140530112226.GA3949-M5GwZQ6tE7x5pKCnmE3YQBJ8xKzm50AiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 19:01       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 11:44         ` Dave Martin
2014-06-04 21:32         ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-05  9:42           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-06 22:45 Thierry Reding
2014-06-07 13:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-09 10:49   ` Thierry Reding

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