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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC 01/10] iommu: Add IOMMU device registry
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 14:49:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140704134928.GA25714@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140704134709.GA4203@ulmo>

On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 02:47:10PM +0100, Thierry Reding wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 01:05:30PM +0200, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 10:49:41PM +0200, Thierry Reding wrote:
> > > Add an IOMMU device registry for drivers to register with and implement
> > > a method for users of the IOMMU API to attach to an IOMMU device. This
> > > allows to support deferred probing and gives the IOMMU API a convenient
> > > hook to perform early initialization of a device if necessary.
> > 
> > Can you elaborate on why exactly you need this? The IOMMU-API is
> > designed to hide any details from the user about the available IOMMUs in
> > the system and which IOMMU handles which device. This looks like it is
> > going in a completly different direction from that.
> 
> I need this primarily to properly serialize device probing order.
> Without it the IOMMU may be probed later than its clients, in which case
> the client drivers will assume that there is no IOMMU (iommu_present()
> for the parent bus fails).

I can also vouch for needing *a* solution to this problem. The ARM SMMU (and
I think others) rely on initcall ordering rather than the driver probing
model to ensure the IOMMU is probed before any of its masters.

Will
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-04 13:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-26 20:49 [RFC 00/10] Add NVIDIA Tegra124 IOMMU support Thierry Reding
     [not found] ` <1403815790-8548-1-git-send-email-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-26 20:49   ` [RFC 01/10] iommu: Add IOMMU device registry Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1403815790-8548-2-git-send-email-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-27  6:58       ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-03 10:37         ` Varun Sethi
2014-07-04 11:05       ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]         ` <20140704110529.GF13434-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-04 13:47           ` Thierry Reding
2014-07-04 13:49             ` Will Deacon [this message]
     [not found]               ` <20140704134928.GA25714-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-06 18:17                 ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                   ` <201407062017.23049.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-07 11:42                     ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-26 20:49   ` [PATCH v3 02/10] devicetree: Add generic IOMMU device tree bindings Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1403815790-8548-3-git-send-email-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-27 13:55       ` Will Deacon
2014-06-30 22:24       ` Stephen Warren
2014-07-04  6:42       ` Varun Sethi
     [not found]         ` <9ffe3c3871ef4b60a955259bfa0bed6c-AZ66ij2kwaacCcN9WK45f+O6mTEJWrR4XA4E9RH9d+qIuWR1G4zioA@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-04  9:05           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-26 20:49   ` [RFC 03/10] of: Add NVIDIA Tegra124 memory controller binding Thierry Reding
2014-06-26 20:49   ` [RFC 04/10] memory: Add Tegra124 memory controller support Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1403815790-8548-5-git-send-email-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-27  7:41       ` Joseph Lo
     [not found]         ` <53AD2020.1050802-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-27  8:17           ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-27  8:24             ` Hiroshi Doyu
2014-06-27  9:46       ` Hiroshi DOyu
     [not found]         ` <20140627124638.7ec150cca163c89727b8953f-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-27 11:08           ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-27 21:33             ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-27 11:07       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-27 11:15         ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-27 21:37           ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-30 22:43       ` Stephen Warren
2014-07-01 12:14       ` Hiroshi Doyu
2014-06-27 13:29     ` Mikko Perttunen
2014-06-26 20:49   ` [RFC 05/10] ARM: tegra: Add memory controller on Tegra124 Thierry Reding
2014-06-26 20:49   ` [RFC 06/10] ARM: tegra: tegra124: Enable IOMMU for display controllers Thierry Reding
2014-06-26 20:49   ` [RFC 07/10] ARM: tegra: tegra124: Enable IOMMU for SDMMC controllers Thierry Reding
2014-06-26 20:49   ` [RFC 08/10] ARM: tegra: Select ARM_DMA_USE_IOMMU Thierry Reding
2014-06-26 20:49   ` [RFC 09/10] drm/tegra: Add IOMMU support Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1403815790-8548-10-git-send-email-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-27  9:46       ` Hiroshi DOyu
     [not found]         ` <20140627124614.050be2e406a4b9a02d9fe97c-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-27 10:54           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-27 11:03             ` Hiroshi Doyu
2014-06-27 10:58           ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-30 18:48       ` Sean Paul
     [not found]         ` <CAOw6vbJy6oy7cibH4f332UM=kS56KUMcnYdUTG0pEYXyQkFDoQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-01 15:54           ` Sean Paul
     [not found]             ` <CAOw6vbLFLrqWYB-4N50G7oucgMD+xd+QtdcMSzX4z7xRiU-vPQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-02  8:39               ` Thierry Reding
2014-11-05  9:50               ` Thierry Reding
2014-11-05 10:26           ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-26 20:49   ` [RFC 10/10] mmc: sdhci-tegra: " Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1403815790-8548-11-git-send-email-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-27  9:46       ` Hiroshi DOyu
     [not found]         ` <20140627124602.53d046dae5d7e269815e56a0-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-27 11:01           ` Thierry Reding

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