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From: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	khilman-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
	Olof Johansson <olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>,
	Hans de Goede <hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Karsten Merker <merker-8fiUuRrzOP0dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Formal license ambiguity in arch/arm/boot/dts/sun?i-a*.dts
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 15:20:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140807132023.GG15297@lukather> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140804212317.GL30282-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>

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Hi Russell,

On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 10:23:17PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 09:25:10PM +0200, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 07:59:27PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > I would actually prefer if we could migrate a lot of these files to BSD license,
> > > provided the original authors agree. We want the dtb blobs to be embeddable into
> > > boot loaders of any license.
> > 
> > Even though I'd be open to having my contributions to DTBs under the
> > BSD, is this really a thing?
> > 
> > I mean, for all I know, an OS/Bootloader would just parse a documented
> > binary file, and I don't see any derivative work there.
> 
> How does the OS/Bootloader end up with that binary file?
> 
> For the sake of argument, let's say that the BSDs want to move to DT on
> ARM.  Great, they convert over to parsing our DT blobs.
> 
> However, they can't distribute the binary DT blobs to their users without
> coming up against the problems of the GPL wrt binary distribution.
> 
> They could distribute the source files, but remember that many of those
> are currently GPL licensed, so they'd probably end up having to package
> them entirely separately, if they're willing to do that at all.
> 
> Or they could decide to ignore us altogether, and do their own DT stuff,
> maybe partially implementing our properties, or maybe coming up with
> different and/or incompatible properties - which would be bad because
> we now end up with two ways to describe the same hardware in active use.
> 
> I suspect the final option is the one they'd choose, and it's in our
> interest that _that_ doesn't happen.

Ah, yes, it's not really about a fear of a GPL-spread, but rather a
concern about the source distribution. Makes sense.

How should we deal with such relicensing?

Maxime

-- 
Maxime Ripard, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android engineering
http://free-electrons.com

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-08-07 13:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-31 19:20 Formal license ambiguity in arch/arm/boot/dts/sun?i-a*.dts Karsten Merker
     [not found] ` <20140731192016.GA6869-Hlt6eto4P0pdWf7zwHaZWbNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-03 13:04   ` Maxime Ripard
2014-08-03 17:59     ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]       ` <201408031959.27607.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-04 19:25         ` Maxime Ripard
2014-08-04 21:23           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]             ` <20140804212317.GL30282-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-05  8:06               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-08-07 13:20               ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2014-09-02 10:22                 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-09-02 10:40                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                     ` <20140902104002.GN30401-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02 11:54                       ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2014-09-02 12:27                       ` Maxime Ripard
2014-09-02 12:35                         ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]                           ` <5405B986.2080407-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02 12:51                             ` Maxime Ripard
2014-09-02 13:02                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 13:37                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                                 ` <20140902133713.GR30401-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02 16:52                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-02 14:42                               ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]                                 ` <5405D74B.8090409-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02 15:18                                   ` Maxime Ripard
2014-09-02 16:24                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-08-05  8:01           ` Hans de Goede
2014-08-05  8:02           ` Hans de Goede
2014-08-03 20:41     ` Russell King - ARM Linux

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