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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: Hiroshi Doyu <hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	"devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
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	<iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>,
	Thierry Reding
	<thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org"
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] devicetree: Add generic IOMMU device tree bindings
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:51:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140815115110.GO27466@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a9774lf5.fsf-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 07:47:42AM +0100, Hiroshi Doyu wrote:
> Thierry Reding <thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
> 
> > +Multiple-master IOMMU:
> > +----------------------
> > +
> > +       iommu {
> > +               /* the specifier represents the ID of the master */
> > +               #iommu-cells = <1>;
> > +       };
> > +
> > +       master@1 {
> > +               /* device has master ID 42 in the IOMMU */
> > +               iommus = <&{/iommu} 42>;
> > +       };
> > +
> > +       master@2 {
> > +               /* device has master IDs 23 and 24 in the IOMMU */
> > +               iommus = <&{/iommu} 23>, <&{/iommu} 24>;
> > +       };
> 
> I think that this "master ID" will be parsed in IOMMU driver. For
> example, ARM,SMMU expects "streamID" as "master ID", right?
> 
> If a SoC has a feature to configure to assign streamID to devices at
> runtime, "streamID" is not equal to "master ID".
> 
>   iommus = <&{/smmu} "soc specific master ID">;
> 
> "soc master ID" needs to be translated into "streamID" by SoC SW. It
> seems that ARM,SMMU kernel driver doesn't expect this kind of ID
> translation. If ARM,SMMU kernel driver is used as is, "soc master ID"
> would be incompatible? ARM,SMMU needs such translation before
> parsing. Is this my understanding right?
> 
> If so I think that this master ID configuration/translation may be quite
> reasonable requirment for SoC using ARM,SMMU.
> 
> Can we consider this ID translation within ARM,SMMU compatibility?
> 
> IOW, is it possible to implement some SoC specific hook for ID
> translation/configuration in ARM,SMMU kernel driver?

I think there's some confusion here. The ARM architected SMMU does not
perform any StreamID translation -- it sees an incoming ID and uses that to
lookup a set of translation tables. However, for hotpluggable buses (e.g.
PCI), we need a way to communicate the StreamIDs for a newly discovered
device to the SMMU. I expect that this would be described as a translation
from another ID (e.g. requester id for PCI), so *that* is where the
translation occurs.

This translation can be described as a simple base + offset calculation,
e.g. StreamID = RequesterID + offset. Ideally, you'd have one offset per
host controller (and described in the host controller DT node), but you
could also imagine building tables where each RequesterID maps to a
different StreamID.

The final thing to mention is that some SoCs may have device hotplug
architectures that aren't like PCIe, so we may well need glue code there to
`allocate' StreamIDs from a fixed portion of the numberspace.

We don't need to solve all of these problems in one go, but the base +
offset code will certainly be useful; not just for the SMMU but also for
the GIC (where we have DeviceIDs). Mark Rutland is looking at this.

Will

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-08-15 11:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-31 10:43 [PATCH v5] devicetree: Add generic IOMMU device tree bindings Thierry Reding
     [not found] ` <1406803383-11601-1-git-send-email-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-31 10:54   ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-31 12:04   ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]     ` <20140731120424.GK9809-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-31 15:38       ` Olof Johansson
     [not found]         ` <CAOesGMiS_MJNnkfPOsqxV27=rXPgT9UNbp-+VhpMRNf9u0+-eA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-31 16:36           ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]             ` <20140731163611.GM9809-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-31 17:14               ` Olof Johansson
     [not found]                 ` <CAOesGMjovbqn86Q97_SCgsC4jeZf1M_gTKk-Twjr_=6rvnXTCg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-31 17:23                   ` Joerg Roedel
2014-08-14  6:47   ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]     ` <87a9774lf5.fsf-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-14 14:45       ` Varun Sethi
     [not found]         ` <cfb1d2ff66004685b7ead3f5e6321681-AZ66ij2kwaacCcN9WK45f+O6mTEJWrR4XA4E9RH9d+qIuWR1G4zioA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-14 16:04           ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]             ` <87y4ur2h23.fsf-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-19  9:52               ` Varun Sethi
     [not found]                 ` <d9fb045d54244f26a773ba45ad3caa2d-AZ66ij2kwaacCcN9WK45f+O6mTEJWrR4XA4E9RH9d+qIuWR1G4zioA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-19 10:03                   ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]                     ` <87zjf0hk3b.fsf-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-19 10:47                       ` Varun Sethi
     [not found]                         ` <a0244b6befa9407fb6c2c35cc29f92f7-AZ66ij2kwaacCcN9WK45f+O6mTEJWrR4XA4E9RH9d+qIuWR1G4zioA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-19 11:03                           ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]                             ` <87wqa4hhcr.fsf-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-19 12:01                               ` Varun Sethi
2014-08-15 11:51       ` Will Deacon [this message]
     [not found]         ` <20140815115110.GO27466-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-15 12:29           ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]             ` <87tx5ehr62.fsf-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-15 13:14               ` Will Deacon
2014-08-19 12:11           ` Varun Sethi
     [not found]             ` <6a3d4048ddb84bd19c847adf7f02fc52-AZ66ij2kwaacCcN9WK45f+O6mTEJWrR4XA4E9RH9d+qIuWR1G4zioA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-22 15:33               ` Will Deacon
2014-07-31 18:09 ` Laurent Pinchart

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