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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Cc: Marc Zyngier <Marc.Zyngier@arm.com>,
	Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	Naveen Krishna Chatradhi <ch.naveen@samsung.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <Catalin.Marinas@arm.com>,
	"naveenkrishna.ch@gmail.com" <naveenkrishna.ch@gmail.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"cpgs@samsung.com" <cpgs@samsung.com>,
	Thomas Abraham <thomas.ab@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/14] arm64: dts: Add initial device tree support for EXYNOS7
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:43:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140828174317.GC18005@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL_JsqKB-gganC6H1XBzUbFzXk8zy08U4X3mFWhxNWZO=upJPQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 06:33:13PM +0100, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com> wrote:
> > On 28/08/14 18:03, Mark Rutland wrote:
> >
> >> From 67104ad5a56e4c18f9c41f06af028b7561740afd Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> >> From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
> >> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 17:41:03 +0100
> >> Subject: [PATCH] Doc: dt: arch_timer: discourage clock-frequency use
> >>
> >> The ARM Generic Timer (AKA the architected timer, arm_arch_timer)
> >> features a CPU register (CNTFRQ) which firmware is intended to
> >> initialize, and non-secure software can read to determine the frequency
> >> of the timer. On CPUs with secure state, this register cannot be written
> >> from non-secure states.
> >>
> >> The firmware of early SoCs featuring the timer did not correctly
> >> initialize CNTFRQ correctly on all CPUs, requiring the frequency to be
> >> described in DT as a workaround. This workaround is not complete however
> >> as CNTFRQ is exposed to all software in a privileged non-secure mode,
> >> including KVM guests. The firmware and DTs for recent SoCs have followed
> >
> > I believe Xen is also affected by this.
> >
> >> the example set by these early SoCs.
> >>
> >> This patch updates the arch timer binding documentation to make it
> >> clearer that the use of the clock-frequency property is a poor
> >> work-around. The MMIO generic timer binding is similarly updated, though
> >> this is less of a concern as there is generally no need to expose the
> >> MMIO timers to guest OSs.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
> >> Cc: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
> >
> > Short of more explicit threats:
> 
> Why not also add WARNs (and mark for stable). People tend to notice
> and fix those. If not the vendors, those pesky customers always
> complain (the same ones that get concerned about BogoMIPS values being
> too low).

I had a go a while back but it was a bit painful becuase the MMIO and
cpu timer code is intertwined, and a clock-frequency property on the
MMIO timers isn't all that problematic (though admittedly still a
workaround for FW not initialising something it was intended to).

I was hoping I'd have the chance to split the driver in two first, so as
to sidestep that. I'll take another look.

Mark.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-28 17:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-27  9:44 [PATCH 00/14] Support 64bit Cortex A57 based Exynos7 SoC Naveen Krishna Chatradhi
2014-08-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 10/14] arm64: dts: add pinctrl support to EXYNOS7 Naveen Krishna Chatradhi
2014-08-27 11:14   ` Tomasz Figa
2014-08-29  5:46     ` Naveen Krishna Ch
2014-08-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 11/14] arm64: dts: Add initial device tree support for EXYNOS7 Naveen Krishna Chatradhi
2014-08-27 10:42   ` Mark Rutland
2014-08-27 14:54     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-03  7:48     ` Naveen Krishna Ch
2014-08-27 11:30   ` Tomasz Figa
2014-09-03  7:55     ` Naveen Krishna Ch
2014-08-28  3:56   ` Olof Johansson
2014-08-28  8:35     ` Marc Zyngier
2014-08-28  9:48     ` Mark Rutland
2014-08-28 16:28       ` Olof Johansson
2014-08-28 17:03         ` Mark Rutland
2014-08-28 17:19           ` Olof Johansson
2014-08-28 17:39             ` Mark Rutland
2014-08-28 17:47               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-08-28 18:17                 ` Mark Rutland
2014-08-28 17:54             ` Rob Herring
2014-08-28 22:23               ` Olof Johansson
2014-08-28 23:30                 ` Simon Horman
2014-08-28 17:27           ` Marc Zyngier
2014-08-28 17:30             ` Mark Rutland
2014-08-28 17:37               ` Marc Zyngier
2014-08-28 17:45                 ` Mark Rutland
     [not found]             ` <53FF6668.4080502-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-28 17:33               ` Rob Herring
2014-08-28 17:43                 ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2014-09-03  8:05     ` Naveen Krishna Ch
2014-08-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 12/14] arm64: dts: add Exynos7 based Espresso board dts file Naveen Krishna Chatradhi
2014-08-27 11:32   ` Tomasz Figa
2014-08-28  4:00   ` Olof Johansson
2014-08-29  5:51     ` Naveen Krishna Ch
2014-08-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 13/14] arm64: exynos7: Enable ARMv8 based Exynos7 (SoC) support Naveen Krishna Chatradhi
2014-08-27 11:09   ` Mark Rutland
2014-08-27 14:50     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-08-28  4:05       ` Olof Johansson
2014-09-03  8:14     ` Naveen Krishna Ch
2014-08-27 11:34 ` [PATCH 00/14] Support 64bit Cortex A57 based Exynos7 SoC Tomasz Figa
2014-09-13 10:57   ` Tomasz Figa
2014-09-14 13:45     ` Thomas Abraham
2014-08-28  3:47 ` Olof Johansson

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