From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Maxime Ripard Subject: Re: Formal license ambiguity in arch/arm/boot/dts/sun?i-a*.dts Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 12:22:06 +0200 Message-ID: <20140902102206.GU15297@lukather> References: <20140731192016.GA6869@excalibur.cnev.de> <20140803130430.GY3952@lukather> <201408031959.27607.arnd@arndb.de> <20140804192510.GF3952@lukather> <20140804212317.GL30282@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> <20140807132023.GG15297@lukather> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Y3m32dcgE5dp77SC" Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140807132023.GG15297@lukather> Sender: devicetree-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org To: Russell King - ARM Linux Cc: devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, khilman-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org, Arnd Bergmann , Hans de Goede , Karsten Merker , Olof Johansson , linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org List-Id: devicetree@vger.kernel.org --Y3m32dcgE5dp77SC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 03:20:23PM +0200, Maxime Ripard wrote: > Hi Russell, >=20 > On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 10:23:17PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 09:25:10PM +0200, Maxime Ripard wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 07:59:27PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > > > I would actually prefer if we could migrate a lot of these files to= BSD license, > > > > provided the original authors agree. We want the dtb blobs to be em= beddable into > > > > boot loaders of any license. > > >=20 > > > Even though I'd be open to having my contributions to DTBs under the > > > BSD, is this really a thing? > > >=20 > > > I mean, for all I know, an OS/Bootloader would just parse a documented > > > binary file, and I don't see any derivative work there. > >=20 > > How does the OS/Bootloader end up with that binary file? > >=20 > > For the sake of argument, let's say that the BSDs want to move to DT on > > ARM. Great, they convert over to parsing our DT blobs. > >=20 > > However, they can't distribute the binary DT blobs to their users witho= ut > > coming up against the problems of the GPL wrt binary distribution. > >=20 > > They could distribute the source files, but remember that many of those > > are currently GPL licensed, so they'd probably end up having to package > > them entirely separately, if they're willing to do that at all. > >=20 > > Or they could decide to ignore us altogether, and do their own DT stuff, > > maybe partially implementing our properties, or maybe coming up with > > different and/or incompatible properties - which would be bad because > > we now end up with two ways to describe the same hardware in active use. > >=20 > > I suspect the final option is the one they'd choose, and it's in our > > interest that _that_ doesn't happen. >=20 > Ah, yes, it's not really about a fear of a GPL-spread, but rather a > concern about the source distribution. Makes sense. >=20 > How should we deal with such relicensing? Ping? Are we doing this on a per platform basis? Should we enforce this dual licensing for the future DTS patches? If so, starting from when? Maxime --=20 Maxime Ripard, Free Electrons Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android engineering http://free-electrons.com --Y3m32dcgE5dp77SC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUBZpOAAoJEBx+YmzsjxAg9PcP/jdNbQRUZI7be+OtXbqFT9GK 80kXBQT99dlej67vhT5AvlMofw2Ne5vUIf/QseBPjk5P0SGzm24lTCGNdKOtfCSo RPv84YdL81RPc8gUtji41ovqg/v1OIfvTtgUfWPeFZka1T8uQtdhm8M4Fo6y7neM QdD81758P6L0TV1sfALaUoiAjq7fVJ4TSE9JI5rs6KbqCKZdc2Op+ygwq/xsYG88 h6NJtoMSYptjZXwY9HgqBNthUmjXAmYLsifiA6xu6rT0RUeHBYiWwyRAn4T1P/ZB K3bF7XPdl32uytF+KZkXIbhpHN+y2XSXeUGfzIJGxLkb7ZNtnb8VtJZ0L3DfeY4/ 1kUj1DYqk4d05oGDYnVHRK5zLVG7GYg+M1u9fu0+a0dWmBgCfIOAtl4DrjUjuW9H 0kbyjJ8IUMsRLgCG914iKu0fGAo/DszvP6whQ7CEmlGegHFdPI3tDVELNR4GRMTO enmLinXYH5Udl+HgeslyCmJ72T11KqQ8lHN0S8p7Imoo/PSFhfHyPVDWkCapJI5v HoiheN79ddEW/vIac6S3A2bf514kMV2RcC7cKd7WIvcNUZF5hP/kBkqV2glIJyC+ rs+0qFHmoR3C41a4e47VAURXZ6h45F45kzYrAOO45mfIIpbcSdhLIlA8DiaKuKsQ CnYO+GDzrfvxJTxTnog7 =nORi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Y3m32dcgE5dp77SC-- -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html