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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] clocksource: arch_timer: Allow the device tree to specify the physical timer
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:47:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140911164710.GW6158@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1410452204-7277-1-git-send-email-dianders-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 05:16:44PM +0100, Doug Anderson wrote:
> Some 32-bit (ARMv7) systems are architected like this:
>
> * The firmware doesn't know and doesn't care about hypervisor mode and
> we don't want to add the complexity of hypervisor there.
>
> * The firmware isn't involved in SMP bringup or resume.
>
> * The ARCH timer come up with an uninitialized offset between the
> virtual and physical counters. Each core gets a different random
> offset.
>
> On systems like the above, it doesn't make sense to use the virtual
> counter. There's nobody managing the offset and each time a core goes
> down and comes back up it will get reinitialized to some other random
> value.
You probably need to rephrase this slightly, as there *is* still a
requirement on the hypervisor/firmware (actually, two!). See below.
> Let's add a property to the device tree to say that we shouldn't use
> the virtual timer. Firmware could potentially remove this property
> before passing the device tree to the kernel if it really wants the
> kernel to use a virtual timer.
>
> Note that it's been said that ARM64 (ARMv8) systems the firmware and
> kernel really can't be architected as described above. That means
> using the physical timer like this really only makes sense for ARMv7
> systems.
I'd go further: this only makes sense if you're booting in secure SVC
mode.
> In order for this patch to do anything useful, we also need Sonny's
> patch at <https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/4790921/>
>
> Signed-off-by: Doug Anderson <dianders-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
> Signed-off-by: Sonny Rao <sonnyrao-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
> ---
> Changes in v2:
> - Add "#ifdef CONFIG_ARM" as per Will Deacon
>
> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arch_timer.txt | 6 ++++++
> drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c | 5 +++++
> 2 files changed, 11 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arch_timer.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arch_timer.txt
> index 37b2caf..876d32b 100644
> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arch_timer.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arch_timer.txt
> @@ -22,6 +22,12 @@ to deliver its interrupts via SPIs.
> - always-on : a boolean property. If present, the timer is powered through an
> always-on power domain, therefore it never loses context.
>
> +** Optional properties:
> +
> +- arm,use-physical-timer : Don't ever use the virtual timer, just use the
> + physical one. Not supported for ARM64.
I'd say `Only supported for ARM' to better match what we've done. Probably
also worth mentioning that this relies on the hypervisor/firmware having set
CNTHCTL.PL1PCEN and CNTHCTL.EL1PCTEN (but assumedly made a mess of CNTVOFF
;) if you want to boot on the non-secure side (e.g. as a guest).
Will
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2014-09-11 16:16 [PATCH v2] clocksource: arch_timer: Allow the device tree to specify the physical timer Doug Anderson
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2014-09-11 16:47 ` Will Deacon [this message]
[not found] ` <20140911164710.GW6158-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-11 16:59 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 17:07 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-11 17:14 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 17:00 ` Marc Zyngier
[not found] ` <5411D528.4050605-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-11 17:11 ` Doug Anderson
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2014-09-11 17:22 ` Marc Zyngier
[not found] ` <5411DA67.2040402-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-11 17:29 ` Doug Anderson
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2014-09-11 17:43 ` Marc Zyngier
[not found] ` <5411DF5D.8060906-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-11 23:55 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 23:56 ` Stephen Boyd
[not found] ` <54123697.4070804-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-12 0:01 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-12 10:20 ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-12 0:14 ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-12 1:17 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-12 3:25 ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-12 11:43 ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-12 12:14 ` Marc Zyngier
[not found] ` <5412E3BB.9030800-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-12 18:59 ` Stephen Boyd
[not found] ` <54134291.3040700-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-15 11:10 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-15 20:33 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-15 21:47 ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-15 21:49 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-15 21:52 ` Sonny Rao
[not found] ` <CAPz6YkWbxiGHO8RK==HbQ3P22amZ9sDKpGew=a2U8gO7soQCDg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-15 22:04 ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-15 22:51 ` Christopher Covington
[not found] ` <54176D62.9010600-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-16 0:24 ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-16 10:42 ` Catalin Marinas
[not found] ` <20140916104242.GC27273-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-16 11:22 ` Christopher Covington
[not found] ` <54174CFF.7050504-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-16 11:03 ` Catalin Marinas
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