From: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Kevin Hilman <khilman@kernel.org>,
Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
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Philipp Zabel <philipp.zabel@g>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/11] PM / Domains: Generic OF-based support
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 11:56:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140926095647.GI31106@ulmo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdWq9ZySdt8sQpBFq=X7LR5a=vZkowNZoB8NHztTisG+NQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:06:24AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> Hi Thierry,
>
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Thierry Reding
> <thierry.reding@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 03:45:11PM -0700, Kevin Hilman wrote:
> >> Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com> writes:
> >> > I just noticed these patches because they conflicted with some of the
> >> > local patches I had to add a very similar framework. One of the reasons
> >> > why I hadn't posted these publicly yet is because the platform where I
> >> > want to use this (Tegra) is somewhat quirky when it comes to power
> >> > domains.
> >> >
> >> > On Tegra these domains are called power gates and they currently have
> >> > their own API. We've been looking at migrating things over to some
> >> > generic framework for some time and PM domains do seem like a good fit.
> >> > However one of the quirks regarding these domains on Tegra is that a
> >> > fixed sequence exists that needs to be respected when enabling or
> >> > disabling a power partition. The exact sequence can be found in the
> >> > drivers/soc/tegra/pmc.c driver's tegra_powergate_sequence_power_up()
> >> > function. Essentially we need to call into the clock and reset drivers
> >> > at very specific moments during the operations that the PMC does.
> >> >
> >> > One solution to this would be to make the needed clocks and resets
> >> > available to the power domain driver via DT, but then we have the
> >> > problem that two drivers would be controlling the same resources. For
> >> > example drivers could still want to disable the clock for more fine-
> >> > grained power management.
> >>
> >> I think you're on the right path here. You can get rid of this conflict
> >> by removing the direct/manual clock management from the drivers, and
> >> using runtime PM instead: s/clk_enable/pm_runtime_get_sync/,
> >> s/clk_disable/pm_runtime_put_sync/. When using runtime PM, those calls
> >> trickle down through the power domain driver, which can manage the
> >> device clocks, as well as any additional clocks and resets needed for
> >> power gating.
> >
> > Okay. The DT part of it is going to be pretty nasty (as usual) because
> > we currently have the clocks and resets within the device's device tree
> > node (which I think is where they really belong).
> >
> > So one possibility would be to move the clocks and resets to the power
> > domain controller's node, like so:
> >
> > pmc@... {
> > power-domains {
> > ...
> >
> > sata@... {
> > clocks = <&tegra_car 124>;
> > resets = <&tegra_car 124>;
> > };
> > };
> > };
> >
> > An alternative would be to make the power-domain controller look up the
> > clock within the user's device tree node. That could be problematic,
> > because while the module clock is always the first clock in current
> > device trees, there aren't ordering guarantees, so we'd have to rely on
> > the clock name.
>
> Or on some other way.
> Do you have a separate hardware block that controls all (and only) the
> module clocks?
No, the "clock and reset controller" controls all clocks (and resets) on
the SoC.
> On shmobile SoCs, all module clocks are controlled using the MSTP
> (Module SToP) clocks.
>
> In my old RFC series "[PATCH/RFC 0/4] of: Register clocks for Runtime PM
> with PM core" (https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/4/24/1118) the MSTP clock driver
> advertised using a new CLK_RUNTIME_PM flag that its clocks are module
> clocks and thus suitable for runtime PM.
>
> There were some issues with that series, but the general idea of letting a
> clock driver advertise that all its clocks are module clocks could still be
> useful. Then the power domain driver knows which clocks to manage.
That sounds interesting. Although it would still mean that we need a way
to associate a clock with the correct power domain. I guess the driver
could do that by iterating over all available clocks in the device's
clocks property and grab only those that are marked CLK_RUNTIME_PM.
Thierry
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-26 9:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-19 18:27 [PATCH v5 00/11] PM / Domains: Generic OF-based support Ulf Hansson
2014-09-19 18:27 ` [PATCH v5 01/11] PM / Domains: Add a detach callback to the struct dev_pm_domain Ulf Hansson
2014-09-22 11:15 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-09-19 18:27 ` [PATCH v5 02/11] ACPI / PM: Assign the ->detach() callback when attaching the PM domain Ulf Hansson
2014-09-19 18:27 ` [PATCH v5 03/11] PM / Domains: Add generic OF-based PM domain look-up Ulf Hansson
2014-09-19 18:27 ` [PATCH v5 04/11] PM / Domains: Add APIs to attach/detach a PM domain for a device Ulf Hansson
2014-09-22 11:12 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-09-19 18:27 ` [PATCH v5 05/11] drivercore / platform: Convert to dev_pm_domain_attach|detach() Ulf Hansson
2014-09-19 18:27 ` [PATCH v5 08/11] spi: core: " Ulf Hansson
2014-09-19 18:27 ` [PATCH v5 09/11] amba: Add support for attach/detach of PM domains Ulf Hansson
[not found] ` <1411151264-16245-1-git-send-email-ulf.hansson-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-19 18:27 ` [PATCH v5 06/11] i2c: core: Convert to dev_pm_domain_attach|detach() Ulf Hansson
[not found] ` <1411151264-16245-7-git-send-email-ulf.hansson-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-20 12:23 ` Wolfram Sang
2014-09-20 23:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-22 9:52 ` Mika Westerberg
2014-09-22 10:00 ` Wolfram Sang
2014-09-19 18:27 ` [PATCH v5 07/11] mmc: sdio: " Ulf Hansson
2014-10-02 0:27 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-10-13 2:48 ` Aaron Lu
2014-10-13 11:44 ` Ulf Hansson
2014-09-19 18:27 ` [PATCH v5 10/11] ARM: exynos: Move to generic PM domain DT bindings Ulf Hansson
2014-09-19 18:27 ` [PATCH v5 11/11] ACPI / PM: Convert acpi_dev_pm_detach() into a static function Ulf Hansson
2014-09-19 18:48 ` [PATCH v5 00/11] PM / Domains: Generic OF-based support Dmitry Torokhov
2014-09-22 14:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-22 19:04 ` Ulf Hansson
2014-09-23 1:42 ` Mark Brown
2014-09-24 12:44 ` Grygorii Strashko
2014-09-24 13:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-24 13:59 ` Grygorii Strashko
2014-09-25 11:21 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-25 15:29 ` Ulf Hansson
2014-09-25 16:56 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-26 0:27 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-26 5:08 ` Kevin Hilman
2014-09-26 7:44 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-25 22:45 ` Kevin Hilman
2014-09-26 7:31 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-26 8:06 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-09-26 9:56 ` Thierry Reding [this message]
2014-09-26 10:01 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-09-26 10:04 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-26 14:50 ` Kevin Hilman
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