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From: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
To: Huang Shijie <shijie8@gmail.com>
Cc: "Janusz Użycki" <j.uzycki@elproma.com.pl>,
	"Richard Genoud" <richard.genoud@gmail.com>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Russell King - ARM Linux" <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	"Jiri Slaby" <jslaby@suse.cz>,
	"Fabio Estevam" <festevam@gmail.com>,
	"linux-serial@vger.kernel.org" <linux-serial@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/4] serial: mxs-auart: use mctrl_gpio helpers for handling modem signals
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 09:03:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201411070903.11645.marex@denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMiH66FKJm8hcgtR=-ZzzpCq+PQ8xkixbUnMzRPVd_cM_6VM1w@mail.gmail.com>

On Friday, November 07, 2014 at 02:34:31 AM, Huang Shijie wrote:
> why change them to gpio?  If we change them to gpio.  Could the DMA still
> works fine?
> did you test the DMA with this patch?
> 
> Add Marek for this patch too.

I didn't look too deep into the patch, so here's just my experience:

1) The AUART block signals and GPIO block signals are not sychronised using the 
   same clock. Therefore, the latency between toggling of the AUART lines and
   the GPIO-driven pins will not be deterministic and will vary. There might be
   a way to approximate that, but that's definitelly not a reliable solution.

   This is very bad for example if you drive RS485 DIR line with the RTS pin as
   a GPIO ; the RTS pin will toggle at non-deterministic time compared to the
   end of UART transmission. This will trigger bit-loss on the RS485 line and
   you just don't want that.

2) Speaking of RS485, there's [1] and [2]. which I believe apply to any combo
   of UART+GPIO toggling.

So I hate to bring the bad news , but UART+GPIO combo toggling is really a bad
bad idea.

HTH

[1] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.serial/6770
[2] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.serial/3619/

Best regards,
Marek Vasut

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-11-07  8:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-10 16:53 [PATCH v4 0/4] serial: mxs-auart: gpios as modem signals Janusz Uzycki
2014-10-10 16:53 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] serial: mxs-auart: clean get_mctrl and set_mctrl Janusz Uzycki
2014-10-24 15:31   ` Richard Genoud
2014-10-10 16:53 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] serial: mxs-auart: use mctrl_gpio helpers for handling modem signals Janusz Uzycki
2014-10-24 15:32   ` Richard Genoud
2014-10-24 15:51     ` Janusz Użycki
2014-10-31  8:48       ` Richard Genoud
2014-11-06 11:13         ` Janusz Użycki
     [not found]           ` <CAMiH66FKJm8hcgtR=-ZzzpCq+PQ8xkixbUnMzRPVd_cM_6VM1w@mail.gmail.com>
2014-11-07  8:03             ` Marek Vasut [this message]
2014-11-07 10:04               ` Janusz Użycki
2014-11-07 11:02                 ` Marek Vasut
2014-11-07 13:23                   ` Janusz Użycki
2014-11-07 14:48                     ` Marek Vasut
2014-11-07 16:29                       ` Janusz Użycki
2014-11-08 11:22                         ` Marek Vasut
2014-11-08 13:38                           ` Janusz Użycki
2014-10-10 16:53 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] serial: mxs-auart: add interrupts for modem control lines Janusz Uzycki
2014-10-10 16:53 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] serial: mxs-auart: enable PPS support Janusz Uzycki

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