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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Lucas Stach <l.stach@pengutronix.de>
Cc: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	nm@ti.com, rob.herring@linaro.org, kesavan.abhilash@gmail.com,
	linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, sboyd@codeaurora.org,
	santosh.shilimkar@oracle.com, Rafael Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	olof@lixom.net, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	mike.turquette@linaro.org, Sudeep.Holla@arm.com,
	grant.likely@linaro.org, thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] OPP: Redefine bindings to overcome shortcomings
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 17:18:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141204171849.GX7712@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1417692868.9037.4.camel@pengutronix.de>

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On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 12:34:28PM +0100, Lucas Stach wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 04.12.2014, 16:44 +0530 schrieb Viresh Kumar:

> > +  - voltage-tolerance: Specify the CPU voltage tolerance in percentage.

> This is extremely ill defined. It doesn't say in which direction the
> tolerance is to be applied. Can you go below or above the OPP specified
> voltage? For now everyone just assumes that it has to work both ways.
> Also with this binding the tolerance is applied for all OPPs, where is
> very much depends on the individual OPP.

Almost all specifications for voltages are done as either min/typ/max or
+/- a target voltage.

> If you are going to redefine OPPs anyway I would really like to see this
> property die and rather have a min/max voltage per OPP. That way you can
> properly express the OPP constraints. Most OPPs will likely allow a much
> higher voltage than their minimal specified one, except when you go over
> thermal limits with a high clock/voltage combination.

If you've got a minimum and maximum you also need to specify a target,
generally it's going to be better to go for the target voltage which may
not be the midpoint and is unlikely to be one of the bounds.  I do think
it's sensible to have the option of doing both to more closely match
datasheets.

> > +  - clock-latency: Specify the possible maximum transition latency for clock,
> > +    in unit of nanoseconds.

> Why do we need this? This is property of the clock. We should be able to
> handle this completely internally in the kernel. I don't know if the
> clock API has something like this right now, but it should be a trivial
> addition.

Or have it be part of the clock binding at any rate.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-12-04 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-04 11:14 [RFC] OPP: Redefine bindings to overcome shortcomings Viresh Kumar
2014-12-04 11:34 ` Lucas Stach
2014-12-04 14:07   ` Viresh Kumar
2014-12-05  5:24     ` Viresh Kumar
2014-12-04 17:18   ` Mark Brown [this message]
2014-12-09 15:51 ` Viresh Kumar
2014-12-29 17:05   ` Rob Herring
2014-12-31  4:47     ` Viresh Kumar
2015-01-20  7:21       ` Viresh Kumar

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