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From: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: Jisheng Zhang <jszhang-eYqpPyKDWXRBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
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	Jonghwa Lee
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	Catalin Marinas <Catalin.Marinas-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
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	Amit Daniel Kachhap
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	Rob Herring <robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Sudeep Holla <Sudeep.Holla-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/2] Documentation: arm: define DT bindings for system suspend
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 11:59:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150122115906.GB1218@red-moon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150122142949.64c41db6@xhacker>

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 06:29:49AM +0000, Jisheng Zhang wrote:
> Dear Lorenzo and Sudeep,
> 
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 20:33:14 -0800
> Jisheng Zhang <jszhang-eYqpPyKDWXRBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
> > Dear Lorenzo,
> > 
> > On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 05:56:11 -0800
> > Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 01:35:07PM +0000, Jisheng Zhang wrote:
> > > > Dear Sudeep,
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 05:21:39 -0800
> > > > Jisheng Zhang <jszhang-eYqpPyKDWXRBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Dear Sudeep,
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 03:35:54 -0800
> > > > > Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > ARM based platforms implement unique ways to enter system suspend
> > > > > > (i.e. Suspend to RAM). The mechanism and the parameters defining the
> > > > > > system state vary on a per-platform basis forcing the OS to handle
> > > > > > it in very platform specific way.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Since ARM 32-bit systems had machine specific code, no attempts to
> > > > > > standardize are being made as it provides easy way to implement
> > > > > > suspend operations in a platform specific manner. However, this
> > > > > > approach not only makes maintainance more difficult as the number of
> > > > > > platforms supported increases but also not feasible for ARM64.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This DT binding aims at standardizing the system suspend for ARM
> > > > > > platforms. ARM64 platforms mandates entry-method property in DT for
> > > > > > this system suspend node.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On system implementing PSCI as an enable-method to enter system
> > > > > > suspend, the PSCI CPU suspend method is used on versions upto v0.2
> > > > > > and requires the power_state parameter to be passed to the PSCI CPU
> > > > > > suspend function.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This parameter is platform specific, therefore must be provided by
> > > > > > firmware to the OS in order to enable proper call sequence.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This ARM system suspend DT bindings rely on a property
> > > > > > (i.e. arm,psci-suspend-param) in the PSCI DT bindings that describes
> > > > > > how the PSCI CPU suspend power_state parameter should be defined in
> > > > > > DT.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/psci.txt     | 11 +++
> > > > > >  .../devicetree/bindings/arm/system-suspend.txt     | 93
> > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++ 2 files changed, 104 insertions(+)
> > > > > >  create mode 100644
> > > > > > Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/system-suspend.txt
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/psci.txt
> > > > > > b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/psci.txt index
> > > > > > 5aa40ede0e99..bd3977a2a333 100644 ---
> > > > > > a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/psci.txt +++
> > > > > > b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/psci.txt @@ -61,6 +61,14 @@
> > > > > > Device tree nodes that require usage of PSCI CPU_SUSPEND function
> > > > > > (ie idle Definition: power_state parameter to pass to the PSCI
> > > > > > suspend call. 
> > > > > > +PSCI v0.2 and earlier versions don't have explicit operation for
> > > > > > system +suspend. However, one can implement system suspend using
> > > > > > CPU_SUSPEND by +ensuring every other core except the one executing
> > > > > > the CPU_SUSPEND call +has called into PSCI through a CPU_OFF call.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If users explicitly hot-unplug other cores when system load is low to
> > > > > save power, then we want to suspend at some point, how does the
> > > > > firmware know this case?
> > > > 
> > > > Sorry for confusion. I mean 
> > > > 
> > > > If users explicitly hot-unplug other cores when system load is low to
> > > > save power, then at some point cpuidle want to suspend the cluster, how
> > > > does the distinguish this case with suspend the system to ram.
> > > 
> > > Through the arm,psci-suspend-param DT property, ie PSCI CPU_SUSPEND
> > > power_state parameter.
> > > 
> > > Did you read the patch :) ?
> > 
> > Yep, I do read the patch ;) To be honest, I implemented the s2ram similar as
> > the patch does. But according to PSCI v0.2, "arm,psci-suspend-param =
> > <0x1010000>" means suspend the cluster. I'm not sure I understand it
> > correctly, "can implement system suspend using CPU_SUSPEND by ensuring
> > every other core except the one executing the CPU_SUSPEND call has called
> > into PSCI through a CPU_OFF call" intend to ask firmware to 
> > 
> > suspend the system if other cores has called into PSCI through a CPU_OFF
> > 
> > or
> > 
> > suspend the cpu cluster if other cores are not CPU_OFF.
> > 
> > 
> > I extend the PSCI CPU_SUSPEND function's to use power_state bit[26] to tell
> > firmware whether suspend to ram or not.
> > 

And that's what the arm,psci-suspend-param stands for in the
system-state node.

Since system-suspend corresponds supposedly to the highest level of
affinity in the system, I would rather say power_state = 0x3010000
can be used for system suspend (affinity bits[25:24] = 0x3), but we did
not want to force it, probably that's what we should do.

Yes, there is also a platform specific component in power_state
param and you can use that too, we wanted to leave flexibility
to platforms.

PSCI v1.0 will introduce a different separate call for system
suspend, this patch copes with "legacy" versions, as the patch
logs describe.

I agree that the value 0x1010000 was a bad choice for the example, it
is confusing, but it does not mean you _have_ to use that value, is it
clear ?

> I read the PSCI spec again, power_state bit[0:15] is "platform specific ID",
> Is one of these bits used for suspend system?

It is platform specific, you define that :) ! That's the reason why
firmware has to tell the OS what parameter triggers the system-state,
it is platform specific, and we provide a binding to define it and provide
the OS with the correct value to use.

Lorenzo
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-22 11:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-21 11:35 [PATCH RFC 0/2] ARM: DT: add bindings for system suspend Sudeep Holla
     [not found] ` <1421840155-18990-1-git-send-email-sudeep.holla-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-21 11:35   ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] Documentation: arm: define DT " Sudeep Holla
     [not found]     ` <1421840155-18990-2-git-send-email-sudeep.holla-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-21 13:21       ` Jisheng Zhang
2015-01-21 13:35         ` Jisheng Zhang
2015-01-21 13:56           ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
     [not found]             ` <20150121135610.GA21950-7AyDDHkRsp3ZROr8t4l/smS4ubULX0JqMm0uRHvK7Nw@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-22  4:33               ` Jisheng Zhang
2015-01-22  6:29                 ` Jisheng Zhang
2015-01-22 11:59                   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi [this message]
2015-01-22 12:09                     ` Jisheng Zhang
2015-02-04 16:10       ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-05 13:28         ` Sudeep Holla
     [not found]           ` <54D37000.8000006-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-05 13:32             ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-05 13:49               ` Sudeep Holla
2015-01-21 11:35   ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] ARM64: psci: implement system suspend using PSCI v0.2 CPU SUSPEND Sudeep Holla
     [not found]     ` <1421840155-18990-3-git-send-email-sudeep.holla-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-22  6:18       ` Leo Yan
2015-01-22 12:08         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-01-22 14:34           ` Leo Yan
2015-01-23 10:58             ` Mark Rutland

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