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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw-LthD3rsA81gm4RdzfppkhA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/5] irqchip: Add DT binding doc for the virtual irq demuxer chip
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 15:03:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150211150338.GM9154@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1448858.4nScWhYZcX-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 03:07:48PM +0000, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 02:14:37 PM Mark Rutland wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 02:31:18PM +0000, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 11:15:17 AM Mark Rutland wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 09:11:59AM +0000, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 08:48:36PM +0000, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > > > > > From f390ccbb31f06efee49b4469943c8d85d963bfb5 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> > > > > > From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
> > > > > > Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 20:14:33 +0000
> > > > > > Subject: [PATCH] genirq: allow mixed IRQF_NO_SUSPEND requests
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > In some cases a physical IRQ line may be shared between devices from
> > > > > > which we expect interrupts during suspend (e.g. timers) and those we do
> > > > > > not (e.g. anything we cut the power to). Where a driver did not request
> > > > > > the interrupt with IRQF_NO_SUSPEND, it's unlikely that it can handle
> > > > > > being called during suspend, and it may bring down the system.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This patch adds logic to automatically mark the irqactions for these
> > > > > > potentially unsafe handlers as disabled during suspend, leaving actions
> > > > > > with IRQF_NO_SUSPEND enabled. If an interrupt is raised on a shared line
> > > > > > during suspend, only the handlers requested with IRQF_NO_SUSPEND will be
> > > > > > called. The handlers requested without IRQF_NO_SUSPEND will be skipped
> > > > > > as if they had immediately returned IRQF_NONE.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Cc: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
> > > > > > Cc: Jason Cooper <jason-NLaQJdtUoK4Be96aLqz0jA@public.gmane.org>
> > > > > > Cc: Nicolas Ferre <nicolas.ferre-AIFe0yeh4nAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> > > > > > Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
> > > > > > Cc: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> > > > > > Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
> > > > > 
> > > > > Aw gawd.. not that again.
> > > > 
> > > > I agree this isn't pretty, but at least it doesn't require the HW
> > > > description to know about Linux internals, and it can work for !DT
> > > > systems.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm really not happy with placing Linux implementation details into
> > > > DTBs.
> > > > 
> > > > > So Rafael and tglx went over this a few months ago I think:
> > > > > 
> > > > >   lkml.kernel.org/r/26580319.OZP7jvJnA9-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org
> > > > > 
> > > > > is the last series I could find. Maybe Rafael can summarize?
> > > > 
> > > > I can't get at any commentary from that link, unfortunately.
> > > > 
> > > > Rafael?
> > > 
> > > Well, the commentary is not there, because both I and Thomas implicitly agreed
> > > on one thing: We cannot add any suspend-related checks to the interrupt handling
> > > hot path, because that will affect everyone including people who don't use
> > > suspend at all and who *really* care about interrupt handling performance.
> > 
> > That's fair enough, and I'm happy to avoid that by other means.
> > 
> > My fundamental objection(s) to the current approach is that we create a
> > binding for a non-existent device that people will abuse without
> > considering the consequences. All we will end up with is more DTBs
> > containing the mux regardless of wether the drivers (or hardware) are
> > actually safe with a shared line.
> 
> That is a valid concern in my view.
> 
> > So with the changes moves out of the hot-path (e.g. with shuffling
> > to/from a suspended_actions list in the pm code), is there some issue
> > that I have not considered?
> 
> When we were reworking the handling of wakeup interrupts during the 3.18
> cycle, one of my proposals was to move the "suspended" irqactions to an
> "inactive" list during suspend_device_irqs() and back during
> resume_device_irqs(), but Thomas didn't like that approach.  His main
> argument was that it made the code in question overly complex which
> was fair enough to me.

I've just looked into that, and have a trivial implementation that's
contained within kernel/irq/pm.c, but it assumes that during suspend
nothing needs to modify actions.

> What about adding a new flag like I said?

That works for me. I'll respond in the other mail.

Thanks,
Mark.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-11 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-29 10:33 [PATCH v4 0/5] ARM: at91: fix irq_pm_install_action WARNING Boris Brezillon
     [not found] ` <1422527620-8308-1-git-send-email-boris.brezillon-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-29 10:33   ` [PATCH v4 1/5] genirq: Authorize chained handlers to remain disabled when initialized Boris Brezillon
2015-01-29 10:33 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] irqchip: add virtual demultiplexer implementation Boris Brezillon
2015-02-10 15:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-10 15:20     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-10 15:43     ` [PATCH] genirq: fix virtual irq demuxer related comments Boris Brezillon
     [not found]       ` <1423582992-8154-1-git-send-email-boris.brezillon-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-10 16:14         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-20 16:12           ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-20 16:17             ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]   ` <1422527620-8308-3-git-send-email-boris.brezillon-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-10 15:48     ` [PATCH v4 2/5] irqchip: add virtual demultiplexer implementation Mark Rutland
2015-01-29 10:33 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] irqchip: Add DT binding doc for the virtual irq demuxer chip Boris Brezillon
2015-02-10 15:36   ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-10 15:52     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-10 16:06       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-10 16:16       ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-10 16:20         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-10 20:48       ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11  8:53         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-11 11:11           ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 12:24             ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-11 12:36               ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 13:38                 ` Alexandre Belloni
     [not found]                   ` <20150211133859.GC3971-m++hUPXGwpdeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-11 13:48                     ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 14:55               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-11 14:43                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 15:17                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                     ` <2437801.56xPyk3atd-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-11 15:03                       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-11 15:39                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-11 15:23                           ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 15:12                     ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 15:51                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-11 15:57                         ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 16:15                           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-11 16:32                             ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 16:38                               ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-11 17:17                                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-20 14:22                                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-20 14:53                                   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-20 15:16                                     ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-23 17:00                                       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-23 18:14                                         ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-23 20:16                                           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-11 16:42                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-11 16:28                               ` Boris Brezillon
     [not found]                               ` <2067295.NbJCftPPli-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-11 17:13                                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 17:29                                   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-12 10:52                                     ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-12 11:09                                       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-12 11:23                                         ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-16  9:49                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-16  9:28                         ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                           ` <20150216092814.GF7119-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-16 12:23                             ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-19  1:16                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                 ` <2502710.nOuZfdq5QP-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-19 11:23                                   ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-19 22:35                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-20 10:31                                       ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-24  1:02                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-24  8:42                                           ` Boris Brezillon
     [not found]                 ` <2982569.CIWvqghzfx-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-11 14:45                   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-11 14:39             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-11  9:11         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-11 11:15           ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 14:31             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]               ` <32372622.IiYZ15O7e1-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-11 14:14                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 15:07                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                     ` <1448858.4nScWhYZcX-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-11 15:03                       ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2015-02-11 14:34         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-01-29 10:33 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] ARM: at91/dt: select VIRT_IRQ_DEMUX for all at91 SoCs Boris Brezillon
2015-01-29 10:33 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] ARM: at91/dt: define a virtual irq demultiplexer chip connected on irq1 Boris Brezillon
2015-02-09 15:47 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] ARM: at91: fix irq_pm_install_action WARNING Boris Brezillon

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