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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw-LthD3rsA81gm4RdzfppkhA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/5] irqchip: Add DT binding doc for the virtual irq demuxer chip
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 16:03:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150211160317.6d6c64e5@bbrezillon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2437801.56xPyk3atd-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 16:17:20 +0100
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw-LthD3rsA81gm4RdzfppkhA@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 02:43:45 PM Mark Rutland wrote:
> > [...]
> > 
> > > > > > > +static irqreturn_t __handle_irq_event_percpu(unsigned int irq, struct irqaction *action)
> > > > > > > +{
> > > > > > > +	/*
> > > > > > > +	 * During suspend we must not call potentially unsafe irq handlers.
> > > > > > > +	 * See suspend_suspendable_actions.
> > > > > > > +	 */
> > > > > > > +	if (unlikely(action->flags & IRQF_NO_ACTION))
> > > > > > > +		return IRQ_NONE;
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thomas was trying to avoid any new conditional code in the interrupt
> > > > > > handling path, that's why I added a suspended_action list in my
> > > > > > proposal.
> > > > > > Even if your 'unlikely' statement make things better I'm pretty sure it
> > > > > > adds some latency.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I can see that we don't want to add more code here to keep things
> > > > > clean/pure, but I find it hard to believe that a single bit test and
> > > > > branch (for data that should be hot in the cache) are going to add
> > > > > measurable latency to a path that does pointer chasing to get to the
> > > > > irqaction in the first place. I could be wrong though, and I'm happy to
> > > > > benchmark.
> > > > 
> > > > Again, I don't have enough experience to say this is (or isn't)
> > > > impacting irq handling latency, I'm just reporting what Thomas told me.
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > It would be possible to go for your list shuffling approach here while
> > > > > still keeping the flag internal and all the logic hidden away in
> > > > > kernel/irq/pm.c. I wasn't sure how actions could be manipulated during
> > > > > suspend, which made me wary of moving them to a separate list.
> > > > 
> > > > Moving them to a temporary list on suspend and restoring them on
> > > > resume should not be a problem.
> > > > The only drawback I see is that actions might be reordered after the
> > > > first resume (anyway, relying on shared irq action order is dangerous
> > > > IMHO).
> > > 
> > > We considered doing that too and saw some drawbacks (in addition to the
> > > reordering of actions you've mentioned).  It added just too much complexity
> > > to the IRQ suspend-resume code.
> > > 
> > > I, personally, would be fine with adding an IRQ flag to silence the
> > > warning mentioned by Alexandre.  Something like IRQD_TIMER_SHARED that would
> > > be set automatically if someone requested IRQF_TIMER | IRQF_SHARED.
> > > 
> > > Thoughts?
> > 
> > Even if the timer driver does that, we still require the other handlers
> > sharing the line to do the right thing across suspend, no? So either
> > their actions need to be masked at suspend time, or the handlers need to
> > detect when they're called during suspend and return early.
> 
> Well, the issue at hand is about things that share an IRQ with a timer AFAICS.
> 
> That is odd enough already and I'd say everyone in that situation needs to
> be prepared to take the pain (including having to check if the device is not
> suspended in their interrupt handlers).
> 
> And quite frankly they need to do that already, because we've never suspended
> timer IRQs.
> 
> > So for the flag at request time approach to work, all the drivers using
> > the interrupt would have to flag they're safe in that context.
> 
> Something like IRQF_"I can share the line with a timer" I guess?  That wouldn't
> hurt and can be checked at request time even.
> 
> > I'm not averse to having that (only a few drivers shuold be affected and
> > we can sanity check them now).
> 
> Right.

Okay, if everyone agrees on this solution, then I'm fine with that too
(even if I'm a bit disappointed to have spent so much time on this
problem to eventually end-up with a simple IRQF_SHARED_TIMER flag :-().


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-11 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-29 10:33 [PATCH v4 0/5] ARM: at91: fix irq_pm_install_action WARNING Boris Brezillon
     [not found] ` <1422527620-8308-1-git-send-email-boris.brezillon-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-29 10:33   ` [PATCH v4 1/5] genirq: Authorize chained handlers to remain disabled when initialized Boris Brezillon
2015-01-29 10:33 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] irqchip: add virtual demultiplexer implementation Boris Brezillon
2015-02-10 15:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-10 15:20     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-10 15:43     ` [PATCH] genirq: fix virtual irq demuxer related comments Boris Brezillon
     [not found]       ` <1423582992-8154-1-git-send-email-boris.brezillon-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-10 16:14         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-20 16:12           ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-20 16:17             ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]   ` <1422527620-8308-3-git-send-email-boris.brezillon-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-10 15:48     ` [PATCH v4 2/5] irqchip: add virtual demultiplexer implementation Mark Rutland
2015-01-29 10:33 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] irqchip: Add DT binding doc for the virtual irq demuxer chip Boris Brezillon
2015-02-10 15:36   ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-10 15:52     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-10 16:06       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-10 16:16       ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-10 16:20         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-10 20:48       ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11  8:53         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-11 11:11           ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 12:24             ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-11 12:36               ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 13:38                 ` Alexandre Belloni
     [not found]                   ` <20150211133859.GC3971-m++hUPXGwpdeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-11 13:48                     ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 14:55               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-11 14:43                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 15:17                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                     ` <2437801.56xPyk3atd-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-11 15:03                       ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2015-02-11 15:39                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-11 15:23                           ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 15:12                     ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 15:51                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-11 15:57                         ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 16:15                           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-11 16:32                             ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 16:38                               ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-11 17:17                                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-20 14:22                                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-20 14:53                                   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-20 15:16                                     ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-23 17:00                                       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-23 18:14                                         ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-23 20:16                                           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-11 16:42                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-11 16:28                               ` Boris Brezillon
     [not found]                               ` <2067295.NbJCftPPli-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-11 17:13                                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 17:29                                   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-12 10:52                                     ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-12 11:09                                       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-12 11:23                                         ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-16  9:49                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-16  9:28                         ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                           ` <20150216092814.GF7119-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-16 12:23                             ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-19  1:16                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                 ` <2502710.nOuZfdq5QP-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-19 11:23                                   ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-19 22:35                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-20 10:31                                       ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-24  1:02                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-24  8:42                                           ` Boris Brezillon
     [not found]                 ` <2982569.CIWvqghzfx-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-11 14:45                   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-11 14:39             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-11  9:11         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-11 11:15           ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 14:31             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]               ` <32372622.IiYZ15O7e1-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-11 14:14                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 15:07                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                     ` <1448858.4nScWhYZcX-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-11 15:03                       ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 14:34         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-01-29 10:33 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] ARM: at91/dt: select VIRT_IRQ_DEMUX for all at91 SoCs Boris Brezillon
2015-01-29 10:33 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] ARM: at91/dt: define a virtual irq demultiplexer chip connected on irq1 Boris Brezillon
2015-02-09 15:47 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] ARM: at91: fix irq_pm_install_action WARNING Boris Brezillon

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