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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
	Nicolas Ferre <nicolas.ferre@atmel.com>,
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	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@free-electrons.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/5] irqchip: Add DT binding doc for the virtual irq demuxer chip
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:00:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150223180057.513b069c@bbrezillon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150220151655.GK13659@leverpostej>

Hi Mark,

Thanks for the clarification, and sorry if I've been a bit harsh to you
in my previous answer, but this whole shared irq thing is starting to
drive me crazy.

On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 15:16:56 +0000
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> wrote:

[...]
 
> 
> An IRQ cannot be shared between a device with IRQF_NO_SUSPEND and a
> device that wishes to operate as a wakeup device, because the semantics
> don't align. One wishes to handle IRQs continuously and one wants to
> abort suspend at the first IRQ (waiting until part-way through the
> resume before handling it).
> 
> So those devices above which wish to operate as wakeup devices are
> either irrelevant or unsalvageable with the current approaches.
> 
> The flag or demux chip only happens to mask the problem in the absence
> of strict sanity checking.
> 
> If you want to be able to share the line then you will need to
> fundamentally rework the way wakeup interrupts work in order to be able
> to decide when you've encountered a real wakeup event.

Okay, I'll try to summarize the discussion we had on IRC regarding this
aspect.

On at91 platforms, irq line 1 is shared by a timer (PIT) and some
devices that can register themselves as wakeup sources (especially the
RTC IP).
I doubt at91 users will agree on dropping either of these features (the
timer or the wakeup on RTC/UART/...), so, can we try to find a solution
that would both make irq, DT and at91 guys happy (that doesn't sound
like an easy task :-)) ?

The whole problem here is that we can't have both IRQF_NO_SUSPEND flag
set on one of the shared action and others that are configuring the irq
as a wakeup source, because it would always lead to the system being
woken up (even when the only thing we were supposed to do is handle the
timer event).

This is because irq_may_run [1], which is called to decide whether we
should handle this irq or just wake the system up [2], will always
return true if at least one of the shared action has tagged the irq
line as a wakeup source.

Sorry for summarizing things you most likely already know, but I want
to be sure I'm actually understanding it correctly.

Now, let's look at how this could be solved.
Here is a proposal [3] that does the following:
 1/ prevent a system wakeup when at least one of the action handler
    has set the IRQF_NO_SUSPEND flag
 2/ Add a few helpers to deal with system wakeup from drivers code
 3/ Rework the at91 RTC driver to show how such weird cases could be
    handled

Of course, I'll need the IRQF_SHARED_TIMER_OK patch to prevent the
WARN_ON backtrace.

Please, let me know if I missed anything important, share your opinion
on this proposal, and feel free to propose any other solution.

[1]http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/kernel/irq/chip.c#L348
[2]http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/kernel/irq/chip.c#L386
[3]http://code.bulix.org/gboee1-87936


-- 
Boris Brezillon, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
http://free-electrons.com

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-23 17:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-29 10:33 [PATCH v4 0/5] ARM: at91: fix irq_pm_install_action WARNING Boris Brezillon
     [not found] ` <1422527620-8308-1-git-send-email-boris.brezillon-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-29 10:33   ` [PATCH v4 1/5] genirq: Authorize chained handlers to remain disabled when initialized Boris Brezillon
2015-01-29 10:33 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] irqchip: add virtual demultiplexer implementation Boris Brezillon
2015-02-10 15:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-10 15:20     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-10 15:43     ` [PATCH] genirq: fix virtual irq demuxer related comments Boris Brezillon
     [not found]       ` <1423582992-8154-1-git-send-email-boris.brezillon-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-10 16:14         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-20 16:12           ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-20 16:17             ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]   ` <1422527620-8308-3-git-send-email-boris.brezillon-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-10 15:48     ` [PATCH v4 2/5] irqchip: add virtual demultiplexer implementation Mark Rutland
2015-01-29 10:33 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] irqchip: Add DT binding doc for the virtual irq demuxer chip Boris Brezillon
2015-02-10 15:36   ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-10 15:52     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-10 16:06       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-10 16:16       ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-10 16:20         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-10 20:48       ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11  8:53         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-11 11:11           ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 12:24             ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-11 12:36               ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 13:38                 ` Alexandre Belloni
     [not found]                   ` <20150211133859.GC3971-m++hUPXGwpdeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-11 13:48                     ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 14:55               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-11 14:43                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 15:17                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                     ` <2437801.56xPyk3atd-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-11 15:03                       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-11 15:39                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-11 15:23                           ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 15:12                     ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 15:51                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-11 15:57                         ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 16:15                           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-11 16:32                             ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 16:38                               ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-11 17:17                                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-20 14:22                                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-20 14:53                                   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-20 15:16                                     ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-23 17:00                                       ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2015-02-23 18:14                                         ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-23 20:16                                           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-11 16:42                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-11 16:28                               ` Boris Brezillon
     [not found]                               ` <2067295.NbJCftPPli-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-11 17:13                                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 17:29                                   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-12 10:52                                     ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-12 11:09                                       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-12 11:23                                         ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-16  9:49                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-16  9:28                         ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                           ` <20150216092814.GF7119-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-16 12:23                             ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-19  1:16                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                 ` <2502710.nOuZfdq5QP-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-19 11:23                                   ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-19 22:35                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-20 10:31                                       ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-24  1:02                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-24  8:42                                           ` Boris Brezillon
     [not found]                 ` <2982569.CIWvqghzfx-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-11 14:45                   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-11 14:39             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-11  9:11         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-11 11:15           ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 14:31             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]               ` <32372622.IiYZ15O7e1-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-11 14:14                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 15:07                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                     ` <1448858.4nScWhYZcX-sKB8Sp2ER+y1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-11 15:03                       ` Mark Rutland
2015-02-11 14:34         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-01-29 10:33 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] ARM: at91/dt: select VIRT_IRQ_DEMUX for all at91 SoCs Boris Brezillon
2015-01-29 10:33 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] ARM: at91/dt: define a virtual irq demultiplexer chip connected on irq1 Boris Brezillon
2015-02-09 15:47 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] ARM: at91: fix irq_pm_install_action WARNING Boris Brezillon

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