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From: Lee Jones <lee-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Eric Anholt <eric-WhKQ6XTQaPysTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-rpi-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Jassi Brar
	<jassisinghbrar-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Craig McGeachie <slapdau-/E1597aS9LT0CCvOHzKKcA@public.gmane.org>,
	Lubomir Rintel <lkundrak-NGH9Lh4a5iE@public.gmane.org>,
	Suman Anna <s-anna-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4 v4] mailbox: Enable BCM2835 mailbox support
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 07:58:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150319075836.GU3318@x1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bnjqorpe.fsf-omZaPlIz5HhaEpDpdNBo/KxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, 18 Mar 2015, Eric Anholt wrote:

> Lee Jones <lee-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> writes:
> 
> > On Thu, 12 Mar 2015, Eric Anholt wrote:
> >
> >> From: Lubomir Rintel <lkundrak-NGH9Lh4a5iE@public.gmane.org>
> >> 
> >> Implement BCM2835 mailbox support as a device registered with the
> >> general purpose mailbox framework. Implementation based on commits by
> >> Lubomir Rintel [1], Suman Anna and Jassi Brar [2] on which to base the
> >> implementation.
> >> 
> >> [1] http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-rpi-kernel/2013-April/000528.html
> >> [2] http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-rpi-kernel/2013-May/000546.html
> >> 
> >> Signed-off-by: Lubomir Rintel <lkundrak-NGH9Lh4a5iE@public.gmane.org>
> >> Signed-off-by: Craig McGeachie <slapdau-/E1597aS9LT0CCvOHzKKcA@public.gmane.org>
> >> Signed-off-by: Suman Anna <s-anna-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
> >> Signed-off-by: Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> >> Signed-off-by: Eric Anholt <eric-WhKQ6XTQaPysTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> >> Cc: Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> >> Acked-by: Lee Jones <lee.jones-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
> >> ---
> >> 
> >> 
> >> v2: Squashed Craig's work for review, carried over to new version of
> >>     Mailbox framework (changes by Lubomir)
> >> 
> >> v3: Fix multi-line comment style.  Refer to the documentation by
> >>     filename.  Only declare one MODULE_AUTHOR.  Alphabetize includes.
> >>     Drop some excessive dev_dbg()s (changes by anholt).
> >> 
> >> v4: Use the new bcm2835_peripheral_read_workaround(), drop the
> >
> > Can you explain to me why this is required (and don't just point me in
> > the direction of the other patch ;) ).  You appear to be using the
> > non-relaxed variants of readl and writel, which already do memory
> > barriers, so I'm a little perplexed as to how the problem can arise.
> 
> Hmm.
> 
> A shorter restatement of the architecture requirement would be, I think,
> "Don't let there be two outstanding reads of different peripherals on
> the AXI bus, or the CPU might mis-assign the read results.  Use rmb() to
> wait for the previous bus reads when you need to prevent this"
> 
> arch/arm/include/asm/io.h's readl() does __iormb() after each
> __raw_readl().  Imagine taking an interrupt for a new peripheral between
> the driver's __raw_readl() and the following __iormb(): Now you've got
> two __raw_readl()s in between iormb()s and you can theoretically get
> unordered reads.
> 
> We could hope that the architecture IRQ handler would happen to do an
> incidental rmb(), resolving the need to protect from interrupt handling
> inside of device drivers.  The interrupt controller's presence at
> 0x7e00b200 sounds like it's an AXI peripheral, so it would need to be
> ensuring ordering of reads.  However, it's doing readl_relaxed()s.  So
> my rmb() at the start of my irq handler is silly -- if somebody got
> interrupted between readl and rmb, we've already had a chance to get the
> wrong result inside of the IRQ chip's status read.
> 
> My new idea for handling this would be to:
> 
> 1) Assume drivers don't exit with reads outstanding.  This means they
> don't do a readl_relaxed() from an AXI peripheral at the end of a path
> without doing something with the result.
> 
> 2) Make bcm2835_handle_irq() do this rmb() at the top, with the big
> explanation, to avoid a race against the interrupted code device being
> inside a readl() before the __iormb().  We don't worry about the 1-2
> readl_relaxed()s inside of bcm2835_handle_irq(), because their return
> values get waited on before continuing on to calling the device driver,
> so the device driver knows its IRQ handler is being entered with no AXI
> reads outstanding.

That's a fantastic explanation.  Thanks for taking the time to
write this out so diligently.

Doing this at a sub-arch level sounds a little wrong to me.  I don't
think Broadcom are the only vendor who do not ensure correct read
order, and writing <vendor>_peripheral_read_workarounds() all over the
place sounds less than graceful.  Granted, if there were a greater
need and this can't be fixed another way we could knock off the
<vendor>_ part and make the call generic, but is there no way we can
deal with this at the architecture level?

The whole point of doing readl_relaxed()s is that you can be assured
that the architecture guarantee ordering.  If that's not the case,
then we need to be using readl()s in the IRQ handler instead. 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-03-19  7:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-13  2:32 [PATCH 1/4] ARM: BCM2835: Add a function for doing an rmb() between device reads Eric Anholt
     [not found] ` <1426213936-4139-1-git-send-email-eric-WhKQ6XTQaPysTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-13  2:32   ` [PATCH 2/4 v3] dt/bindings: Add binding for BCM2835 mailbox driver Eric Anholt
     [not found]     ` <1426213936-4139-2-git-send-email-eric-WhKQ6XTQaPysTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-17 17:27       ` Lee Jones
2015-03-17 22:14         ` Scott Branden
     [not found]           ` <5508A75A.4070203-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-18  1:34             ` Eric Anholt
2015-03-18  8:23             ` Lee Jones
2015-03-18  8:40               ` Jassi Brar
     [not found]                 ` <CABb+yY0Gc+vJHksKc7ahYfRdh2vzj_VR_bFvjr+K+hiqiah5bg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-18  9:15                   ` Lee Jones
2015-03-13  2:32   ` [PATCH 3/4 v4] mailbox: Enable BCM2835 mailbox support Eric Anholt
     [not found]     ` <1426213936-4139-3-git-send-email-eric-WhKQ6XTQaPysTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-17  3:33       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <5507A095.5090805-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-17 18:05           ` Lee Jones
2015-03-17 19:04             ` Eric Anholt
2015-03-18 23:28           ` Eric Anholt
     [not found]             ` <87619xq414.fsf-omZaPlIz5HhaEpDpdNBo/KxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-20  4:48               ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                 ` <550BA6B4.3030604-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-20  5:12                   ` Jassi Brar
     [not found]                     ` <CABb+yY0qN4KcZ9kc6eurSUWPn38f2keKe4FB2efKBAVjREcZbg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-20 17:38                       ` Eric Anholt
2015-03-20 17:24                   ` Eric Anholt
     [not found]                     ` <87wq2bk2ez.fsf-omZaPlIz5HhaEpDpdNBo/KxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-20 19:29                       ` Stephen Warren
2015-03-18  8:42       ` Lee Jones
2015-03-18 22:39         ` Eric Anholt
     [not found]           ` <87bnjqorpe.fsf-omZaPlIz5HhaEpDpdNBo/KxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-19  7:58             ` Lee Jones [this message]
2015-03-20  4:46               ` Stephen Warren
2015-03-20  4:44             ` Stephen Warren
2015-03-13  2:32   ` [PATCH 4/4] ARM: bcm2835: Add the mailbox to the device tree Eric Anholt
     [not found]     ` <1426213936-4139-4-git-send-email-eric-WhKQ6XTQaPysTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-17  3:34       ` Stephen Warren
2015-03-17  3:24   ` [PATCH 1/4] ARM: BCM2835: Add a function for doing an rmb() between device reads Stephen Warren
     [not found]     ` <55079E79.6030303-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-17 19:06       ` Eric Anholt
2015-03-18  8:26   ` Lee Jones

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