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From: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>
To: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Cc: "linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org" <linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alan Tull <atull@altera.com>,
	Alexandre Courbot <gnurou@gmail.com>,
	Dinh Nguyen <dinguyen@altera.com>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] gpio: dwapb: Use human understandable gpio numbering.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:28:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150727112835.GA5617@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkdYUcXjJz+jZ5ZMXK1a7GLi8eL+ecr-yL6Y8901f_-pknQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 12:19:08PM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Richard Cochran
> > This happens with every DT discussion that tries to make things
> > logical for the end user.
> 
> Are you assuming bad faith?

No, I was reacting to the NAK (which I can accept) that does not
address or even acknowledge the problem (which I cannot accept so
easily).

But now that a solution has appeared, I am happy again.

> I think Michael made a very very nice patch series trying to make
> things logical for end users, please participate in that discussion.

Yes, I read it, and it sounds like it will solve the problem.  I will
give the series a try...
 
> > Isn't there a mapping interface for irq numbers?
> 
> I don't see what you mean here. The numbers that appear in
> say /proc/interrupts may seem stable but they are not.
> They depend on things like probe order between irqchips
> and can change between two boots.
> 
> The reason users don't have an issue with it is that there is
> (thank god) no userspace ABI for interrupts.

I was talking about CONFIG_IRQ_DOMAIN_DEBUG.
 
> The problem is for example if I have a SoC with a GPIO expander:
> both have a GPIO line named "0". Which one wins? The SoC
> because it is "more important"? This issue is all over the place
> in any modern chipset. In Ux500 I have sometimes three GPIO
> expanders, all three with GPIO line 0, and also a GPIO 0 on
> the SoC of course. So we need to express this complexity to
> userspace, not try to simplify the world.

Thanks for the explanation.  Of course I don't want an arbitrarily
simplified interface, but I can't understand why the simple case of
built-in SoC GPIOs must have such a weird and variable numbering
patterns.

But once user space can call GPIOs by name, then it doesn't matter
anymore what the kernel numbers are.

Thanks,
Richard

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-27 11:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-01 19:34 [PATCH 0/2] gpio: dwapb: allow sane gpio numbering Richard Cochran
2015-07-01 19:34 ` [PATCH 1/2] gpio: dwapb: Use human understandable " Richard Cochran
2015-07-02  7:05   ` Michael van der Westhuizen
2015-07-02 14:20     ` Richard Cochran
     [not found]       ` <20150702142058.GA9349-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-16  7:57         ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-16  8:18           ` Michael van der Westhuizen
2015-07-16 18:19           ` Richard Cochran
2015-07-03  9:13     ` Richard Cochran
2015-07-03  9:18       ` Michael van der Westhuizen
     [not found]         ` <C1BD6DA3-F32E-4CAD-8DA9-6F74A7966DBE-XrNoQAPr3WXM9gW82pYGhQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-03 10:36           ` Richard Cochran
2015-07-03 10:55             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-07-16  7:52     ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-16  8:16       ` Michael van der Westhuizen
2015-07-02  7:36   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2015-07-02 14:26     ` Richard Cochran
2015-07-02 14:30       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found]         ` <55954B17.3020303-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-02 15:21           ` Richard Cochran
     [not found]             ` <20150702152147.GA10111-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-02 15:54               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2015-07-02 16:02                 ` Michael van der Westhuizen
2015-07-03 13:30                   ` Michael van der Westhuizen
     [not found]   ` <d6b5ce85a17164970d454583560e07f7aed7b8ca.1435777856.git.rcochran-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-16  7:50     ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-16 17:10       ` Richard Cochran
2015-07-16 17:19       ` Richard Cochran
2015-07-27 10:19         ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-27 11:28           ` Richard Cochran [this message]
2015-07-27 12:26           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
     [not found] ` <cover.1435777856.git.rcochran-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-01 19:34   ` [PATCH 2/2] arm: dts: socfpga: Provide the gpio numbers in the controller nodes Richard Cochran

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