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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: Yong Wu <yong.wu-NuS5LvNUpcJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/6] iommu: add ARM short descriptor page table allocator.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 12:00:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150728110023.GH29209@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1438060094.25925.69.camel@mhfsdcap03>

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 06:08:14AM +0100, Yong Wu wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-07-27 at 15:11 +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 03:05:38PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
> > > On 27/07/15 05:21, Yong Wu wrote:
> > > >>>>> +       } else {        /* page or largepage */
> > > >>>>> +               if (quirk & IO_PGTABLE_QUIRK_SHORT_MTK) {
> > > >>>>> +                       if (large) { /* special Bit */
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> This definitely needs a better comment! What exactly are you doing here
> > > >>>> and what is that quirk all about?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I use this quirk is for MTK Special Bit as we don't have the XN bit in
> > > >>> pagetable.
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm still not really clear about what this is.
> > > >
> > > > There is some difference between the standard spec and MTK HW,
> > > > Our hw don't implement some bits, like XN and AP.
> > > > So I add a quirk for MTK special.
> > > 
> > > When you say it doesn't implement these bits, do you mean that having 
> > > them set will lead to Bad Things happening in the hardware, or that it 
> > > will simply ignore them and not enforce any of the protections they 
> > > imply? The former case would definitely want clearly documenting 
> > > somewhere, whereas for the latter case I'm not sure it's even worth the 
> > > complication of having a quirk - if the value doesn't matter there seems 
> > > little point in doing a special dance just for the sake of semantic 
> > > correctness of the in-memory PTEs, in my opinion.
> > 
> > Agreed. We should only use quirks if the current (architecturally
> > compliant) code causes real issues with the hardware. Then the quirk can
> > be used to either avoid the problematic routines or to take extra steps
> > to make things work as the architecture intended.
> > 
> > I've asked how this IOMMU differs from the architecture on a number of
> > occasions, but I'm still yet to receive a response other than "it's special".
> > 
> 
> After check further with DE, Our pagetable is refer to ARM-v7's
> short-descriptor which is a little different from ARM-v8. like bit0(PXN)
> in section and supersection, I didn't read ARM-v7 spec before, so I add
> a MTK quirk to disable PXN bit in section and supersection.(if the PXN
> bit is wrote in ARM-v7 spec, HW will page fault.)

I've been reviewing this using the ARMv7 ARM (Rev.C of DDI0406C) the whole
time. PXN is there as an optional field in non-LPAE implementations. That's
fine and doesn't require any quirks.

> Then I write this code according to ARM-v8 spec defaultly, and add a
> ARM-v7 quirk?

No, I don't think you need this, as the v8 and v7 short-descriptor formats
look compatible to me. You should only need a quirk if architecturally
compliant code cannot work on your hardware.

> And there is a little different between ARM-v7 spec and MTK pagetable.
> It's the XN(bit0) in small page. MTK don't implement XN bit. 
> The bit[1:0] in MTK's small page should be 2'b10, if it's 2'b11, HW will
> page fault.

Aha, thanks! *That* is worthy of a quirk. Something like:

  IO_PGTABLE_QUIRK_ARM_NO_XN

> (MTK don't implement AP bits too, but HW don't use them, it is ok even
> though AP bits is wrote)

Yeah, I think that's fine. The pgtable code will honour the request but
the h/w will ignore it.

> In the end, I will add two quirk like this, is it OK?

I think you only need the one I mentioned above. I don't see the need
for PXN at all (as I said in the last review).

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-28 11:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-16  9:04 [PATCH v3 0/6] MT8173 IOMMU SUPPORT Yong Wu
2015-07-16  9:04 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] dt-bindings: mediatek: Add smi dts binding Yong Wu
2015-07-16  9:04 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] iommu: add ARM short descriptor page table allocator Yong Wu
     [not found]   ` <1437037475-9065-4-git-send-email-yong.wu-NuS5LvNUpcJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-21 17:11     ` Will Deacon
     [not found]       ` <20150721171101.GN31095-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-24  5:24         ` Yong Wu
2015-07-24 16:53           ` Will Deacon
     [not found]             ` <20150724165325.GC21177-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-27  4:21               ` Yong Wu
2015-07-27 14:05                 ` Robin Murphy
2015-07-27 14:11                   ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                     ` <20150727141102.GJ3358-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-28  5:08                       ` Yong Wu
2015-07-28 11:00                         ` Will Deacon [this message]
     [not found]                           ` <20150728110023.GH29209-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-28 13:37                             ` Yong Wu
2015-07-28 13:47                               ` Will Deacon
2015-07-31  7:55                 ` Yong Wu
2015-07-31 11:32                   ` Will Deacon
2015-09-14 12:25         ` Yong Wu
2015-09-16 12:55           ` Will Deacon
     [not found]             ` <20150916125535.GI28771-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-17  2:38               ` Yong Wu
     [not found] ` <1437037475-9065-1-git-send-email-yong.wu-NuS5LvNUpcJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-16  9:04   ` [PATCH v3 1/6] dt-bindings: iommu: Add binding for mediatek IOMMU Yong Wu
2015-07-16  9:04   ` [PATCH v3 4/6] memory: mediatek: Add SMI driver Yong Wu
2015-07-16  9:04   ` [PATCH v3 5/6] iommu/mediatek: Add mt8173 IOMMU driver Yong Wu
     [not found]     ` <1437037475-9065-6-git-send-email-yong.wu-NuS5LvNUpcJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-21 14:59       ` Will Deacon
     [not found]         ` <20150721145910.GG31095-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-24  5:43           ` Yong Wu
2015-07-24 16:55             ` Will Deacon
     [not found]               ` <20150724165509.GD21177-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-27  4:24                 ` Yong Wu
2015-07-27 15:48                   ` Will Deacon
2015-07-27 13:23       ` Robin Murphy
2015-07-27 15:31         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-07-27 15:49           ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]             ` <55B6530A.9050903-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-29  5:41               ` Yong Wu
2015-07-29 10:31                 ` Will Deacon
     [not found]         ` <55B630CE.4050803-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-29  6:32           ` Yong Wu
2015-07-16  9:04 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] dts: mt8173: Add iommu/smi nodes for mt8173 Yong Wu
     [not found]   ` <1437037475-9065-7-git-send-email-yong.wu-NuS5LvNUpcJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-23 14:40     ` Daniel Kurtz
     [not found]       ` <CAGS+omB5xS8LoQR9-S8iqhdsRb4OWQ_B656dJSincLZ9nby1ZA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-29  7:29         ` Yong Wu

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