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From: NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>
To: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
	GTA04 owners <gta04-owner@goldelico.com>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] UART slave device support - version 4
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 09:20:59 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150812092059.361e09bc@home.neil.brown.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkdZf2AM_7Od1kVcBxokK5CJfhnsfZ_oNSF5w7rmZmcenCg@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 15:01:47 +0200 Linus Walleij
<linus.walleij@linaro.org> wrote:

> Hi Neil,
> 
> first, this is a *VERY* interesting and much needed patch series,
> I intend to look closer at it, and if possible test it with some
> (heh) board file device. Would be happy of you put me on CC for these.
> 
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 3:56 AM, NeilBrown <neil@brown.name> wrote:
> 
> >  When a device is connected to a UART via RS-232 (or similar), there
> >  is a DTR line that can be used for power management, and other "modem
> >  control" lines.
> >
> >  On an embedded board, it is very likely that there is no "DTR", and
> >  any power management need to be done using some completely separate
> >  mechanism.
> >
> >  So these "slaves" are really just for devices permanently attached to
> >  UARTs without a full "RS-232" (or similar) connection.  The driver
> >  does all the extra control beyond Tx/Rx.
> 
> What is usually happening (and I have seen it in a few places) is that
> the SoC has *one* fully featured RS232 with CTS/RTS and even
> DTS,DCD,RI and other esoterica, which is intended to be connected to a
> host serial port or so, for example if this SoC is to act as a modem
> or a fax machine, or if it is to drive one.
> 
> Then they often have a few more UART blocks, usually identical, which
> only have RxD+TxD available, so they are "just" UARTs.
> 
> To complicate things further, you may wonder what happened with
> the CTS/RTS (etc) signals from the other blocks. Usually they are there
> in the silicon but just routed to dead ends.
> 
> To complicate it even further, usually all these pins are placed under
> pin control multiplexing, so in an actual electronic design, the
> system will mux out CTS/RTS (etc) from the fully featured RS232
> blocks and only use them as UARTs anyways.
> 
> Then there are those who created real simple RxD/TxD-only UARTs
> ("yeah lets dump this RS232 legacy crap" / "yeah yeah")
> and then realized they want to drive modems ("oh crap, it seemed
> like a good idea at the time"). Then they usually take
> two GPIO pins for CTS/RTS and drive them as GPIOs using
> software and you have a cheap 4-line modem line. This is what
> drivers/tty/serial/serial_mctrl_gpio.c is for if you wondered.
> 
> > I've tested this set and it seems to work ... except that something
> >  is sadly broken with bluetooth support in 4.1-rc1 so I've only really
> >  tested the GPS driver.  I guess it is time to rebase to -rc3.
> 
> You have a hardware taget I see. Which one?

GTA04 (www.gta04.org - openmoko successor).

3 uarts on OMAP3 are wired: one as RS-232 for console, one to bluetooth
half of a wifi/bluetooth module, and one to a GPS.

For the GPS, I just want to power on/off when the TTY is opened/closed,
but the power-on sequence is non-trivial as both "turn on" and
"turn-off' toggle the same line, so I need to be able to detect current
state.

For the bluetooth, the power is a (shared) regulator.  As well as
power-on when the TTY is opened, I'd like regulator to be turned of
when I "hciconfig down" - even though the TTY is still open.
I did a patch a while ago which hooked in to hci_uart_{open,close} to
make this work, but it isn't a really good patch.

It would be nice to hide the TTY from user-space in the bluetooth case,
and have the "hciattach" happen in the kernel, but I think hciattach
does extra initialisation...

NeilBrown

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-11 23:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-11  1:56 [PATCH 0/4] UART slave device support - version 4 NeilBrown
2015-05-11  1:56 ` [PATCH 3/4] TTY: add support for uart_slave devices NeilBrown
2015-05-12  8:31   ` Paul Bolle
2015-05-12 23:35     ` NeilBrown
2015-05-11  1:56 ` [PATCH 1/4] TTY: use class_find_device to find port in uart_suspend/resume NeilBrown
2015-05-11  1:56 ` [PATCH 2/4] TTY: split tty_register_device_attr into 'initialize' and 'add' parts NeilBrown
2015-05-31 22:01 ` [PATCH 0/4] UART slave device support - version 4 Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found] ` <20150511013540.5709.93626.stgit-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-11  1:56   ` [PATCH 4/4] tty/slaves: add a driver to power on/off UART attached devices NeilBrown
2015-08-07 13:01   ` [PATCH 0/4] UART slave device support - version 4 Linus Walleij
2015-08-11 23:20     ` NeilBrown [this message]
2015-08-28  5:52       ` [Gta04-owner] " Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]         ` <CD86D8CD-20D8-44EF-8245-A3E49C2D3EA7-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-28  7:02           ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-28  9:43             ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]               ` <0579762D-51C2-45F0-A362-EE31215A40E8-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-28 11:04                 ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-28 20:04                   ` Christ van Willegen
2016-01-12 13:06   ` Tomeu Vizoso
2016-01-12 13:28     ` [Gta04-owner] " H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-13 19:15       ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-15  9:34         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-15 11:01           ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-15 15:05             ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]               ` <69F8E1E5-EF49-4C8E-88E9-973F82F7102E-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-15 15:43                 ` Andrey Vostrikov
2016-01-15 16:08                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]                     ` <CB69F6F0-B40B-47D1-B175-8401F43288C5-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-15 17:16                       ` Peter Hurley
     [not found]                         ` <56992959.2020204-WaGBZJeGNqdsbIuE7sb01tBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-15 17:32                           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-15 17:43                             ` Peter Hurley
2016-01-15 17:58                               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]                                 ` <69FAE2F5-25D1-4E5E-9FED-FC86773269D6-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-15 19:23                                   ` Peter Hurley
2016-01-15 21:24                                     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-15 22:40                         ` Rob Herring
     [not found]                           ` <CAL_JsqL=Wotz4FuoV7PULfZNfSV=S_q0iOzkckVA3NDDzMdfZQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-16  7:34                             ` Vostrikov Andrey
2016-01-16 23:31                               ` Rob Herring
2016-01-17  8:53                                 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]                                   ` <3D5F35D7-31B5-4E68-875F-7DD492EF0316-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-17 14:19                                     ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-17 17:57                                       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]                                         ` <1D5F146E-D347-453B-9158-8D269F8DA99C-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-17 19:38                                           ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-18  8:17                                             ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]                                               ` <37DCE36D-0A5E-41C5-BDA4-857DCF9F2DD1-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18  8:56                                                 ` Andrey Vostrikov
2016-01-18 11:52                                                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-18 11:19                                                 ` One Thousand Gnomes
     [not found]                                               ` <20160118111926.0882b422@ lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
     [not found]                                                 ` <20160118111926.0882b422-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18 20:58                                                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]                                                     ` <07F3B6C0-0C87-478C-B6DD-5C0EECB42D0D-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18 22:03                                                       ` One Thousand Gnomes
     [not found]                                                         ` <20160118220319.051c9cc0-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18 22:32                                                           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]                                                             ` <C1E6AFE7-1EF2-4C70-8BE2-82F5CD7DDE22-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 14:25                                                               ` One Thousand Gnomes
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20160119142542.5bf64395-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-20 17:33                                                                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-20 16:11                                                               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]                                                                 ` <9E37C552-361C-4A54-980E-E3BFFF834302-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-20 17:46                                                                   ` One Thousand Gnomes
     [not found]                                                                     ` <20160120174610.1c64239a-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-20 18:03                                                                       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-21 10:01                                                                         ` Radek Polak
     [not found]                                                                         ` <39B850CE-E381-4D3B-BD0A-84AFE7DAEEDF-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-22 15:45                                                                           ` Tomeu Vizoso
2016-01-22 16:49                                                                             ` Rob Herring
     [not found]                                                                             ` <CAAObsKB4oFeM9Cjet5z+vz0S1M8RZ3jFt03b38KXq+sh6f5EwA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-22 20:12                                                                               ` One Thousand Gnomes
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <20160122201229.5df0bb2d-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-23  7:40                                                                                   ` Andreas Kemnade
2016-01-23 12:19                                                                                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]                                                                                     ` <DF404071-9FD0-4B33-B1B5-EC14192655E7-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-23 17:28                                                                                       ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-23 22:04                                                                                         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-24 17:10                                                                                           ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-25 10:36                                                                                             ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-19  6:32                                                         ` Andreas Kemnade
     [not found]                               ` <744620565.20160116103445-M4DtvfQ/ZS1MRgGoP+s0PdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-20 19:38                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
     [not found]                                   ` <CAKdAkRQh7xSgOXERhA8EjXEfX5m-PTTjiv757X7FYxK=bhfpww-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-20 20:09                                     ` Vostrikov Andrey
2016-01-15 16:12               ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-15 19:16                 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-15 19:40           ` Pavel Machek
2016-01-15 20:35             ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]     ` <CAAObsKD7-02HVUosXVwqcH6HyGEGYJ9jdNepuNhLiiL+ujO5iw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-12 21:28       ` NeilBrown
     [not found]         ` <87lh7u8p3b.fsf-wvvUuzkyo1HefUI2i7LXDhCRmIWqnp/j@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-13 19:00           ` Pavel Machek

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