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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub parameters
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 17:25:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150911162559.GA8726@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150911124643.GB4530-fJNZiO034lp9pOct4yEdx/3oZC3j2Omk@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 01:46:43PM +0100, Daniel Kiper wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 05:23:02PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > > > C) When you could go:
> > > >
> > > >    DT -> Discover Xen -> Xen-specific stuff -> Xen-specific EFI/ACPI discovery
> > >
> > > I take you mean discovering Xen with the usual Xen hypervisor node on
> > > device tree. I think that C) is a good option actually. I like it. Not
> > > sure why we didn't think about this earlier. Is there anything EFI or
> > > ACPI which is needed before Xen support is discovered by
> > > arch/arm64/kernel/setup.c:setup_arch -> xen_early_init()?
> >
> > Currently lots (including the memory map). With the stuff to support
> > SPCR, the ACPI discovery would be moved before xen_early_init().
> >
> > > If not, we could just go for this. A lot of complexity would go away.
> >
> > I suspect this would still be fairly complex, but would at least prevent
> > the Xen-specific EFI handling from adversely affecting the native case.
> >
> > > > D) If you want to be generic:
> > > >    EFI -> EFI application -> EFI tables -> ACPI tables -> Xen-specific stuff
> > > >           \------------------------------------------/
> > > > 	   (virtualize these, provide shims to Dom0, but handle
> > > > 	    everything in Xen itself)
> > >
> > > I think that this is good in theory but could turn out to be a lot of
> > > work in practice. We could probably virtualize the RuntimeServices but
> > > the BootServices are troublesome.
> >
> > What's troublesome with the boot services?
> >
> > What can't be simulated?
> 
> How do you want to access bare metal EFI boot services from dom0 if they
> were shutdown long time ago before loading dom0 image?

I don't want to.

I asked "What can't be simulated?" because I assumed everything
necessary/mandatory could be simulated without needinng access to any
real EFI boot services.

As far as I can see all that's necessary is to provide a compatible
interface.

> What do you need from EFI boot services in dom0?

The ability to call ExitBootServices() and SetVirtualAddressMap() on a
_virtual_ address map for _virtual_ services provided by the hypervisor.
A console so that I can log things early on.

Mark.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-09-11 16:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-10  8:41 [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub parameters Shannon Zhao
     [not found] ` <1441874516-11364-1-git-send-email-zhaoshenglong-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-10  9:52   ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 10:19     ` Stefano Stabellini
     [not found]       ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1509101116580.2672-7Z66fg9igcxYtxbxJUhB2Dgeux46jI+i@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-10 11:24         ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 11:37           ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 12:15             ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 12:58               ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2015-09-10 13:08                 ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]                   ` <55F19D0202000078000A1B54-rw/UEucdPrvD8XXLLHKrIiOjQekVJEpY@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-10 13:30                     ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-10 13:52               ` Stefano Stabellini
     [not found]                 ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1509101429480.2672-7Z66fg9igcxYtxbxJUhB2Dgeux46jI+i@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-10 14:13                   ` Leif Lindholm
2015-09-10 14:49                   ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 16:10                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 16:23                       ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-11 12:46                         ` Daniel Kiper
     [not found]                           ` <20150911124643.GB4530-fJNZiO034lp9pOct4yEdx/3oZC3j2Omk@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-11 13:14                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-11 13:30                               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-11 15:45                                 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-14  8:42                                   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-09-14  9:09                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-14  9:31                                       ` Shannon Zhao
2015-09-11 16:33                                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-11 16:25                             ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2015-09-12 11:36                               ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-14  9:25                                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-14  9:47                                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-14 12:19                                   ` Daniel Kiper
     [not found]                       ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1509101655020.2672-7Z66fg9igcxYtxbxJUhB2Dgeux46jI+i@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-11 11:00                         ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-10 12:55             ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-10 14:53               ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 15:06                 ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]                   ` <55F1B89802000078000A1C9B-rw/UEucdPrvD8XXLLHKrIiOjQekVJEpY@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-11 16:36                     ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 11:32 ` Andrew Turner
     [not found]   ` <20150910123251.7e0810d1-I/y7IllHY3//9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-10 11:48     ` Julien Grall
2015-09-10 12:05       ` Roger Pau Monné
     [not found]         ` <55F1721D.1010801-Sxgqhf6Nn4DQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-10 12:53           ` [Xen-devel] " Julien Grall
2015-09-17 11:43 ` Shannon Zhao

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