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From: Peter Griffin <peter.griffin-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Lee Jones <lee.jones-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	srinivas.kandagatla-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	maxime.coquelin-qxv4g6HH51o@public.gmane.org,
	patrice.chotard-qxv4g6HH51o@public.gmane.org,
	vinod.koul-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
	dmaengine-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Ludovic Barre <ludovic.barre-qxv4g6HH51o@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/9] dmaengine: st_fdma: Add STMicroelectronics FDMA DT binding documentation
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 11:04:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150929100440.GC16955@griffinp-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-2nd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150914081937.GF27591@x1>

Hi Lee,

On Mon, 14 Sep 2015, Lee Jones wrote:

> > On Fri, 11 Sep 2015, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > 
> > > On Friday 11 September 2015 15:14:23 Peter Griffin wrote:
> > > > +- st,fdma-id	: Must contain fdma controller number
> > > 
> > > What for?
> > 
> > It is used by the driver to generate a unique firmware name.
> > Basically we need to know which controller instance we
> > are as each controller has a different firmware which needs
> > to be loaded.
> > 
> > Rob did say that having a index type property is undesirable
> > over here, see my reply at the bottom
> > http://www.spinics.net/lists/devicetree/msg92529.html.
> > 
> > However I can't think of any other useful properties we could add
> > to derive this information.
> 
> I wouldn't use a property at all.  Why not use the compatible string?
> 
> Who chooses the naming scheme of the firmware binary?

ST

> 
> Is there any reason they can't be:
> 
>   fdma_STiH407_audio.elf
>   fdma_STiH407_app.elf
>   fdma_STiH407_free_running.elf

Not sure, we could easily rename them locally. Getting ST to change
the firmware names in the stlinux distro might be harder.
My personal preference is to leave the firmware names "as is", unless
there is a real show stopper reason where we *have* to change them e.g.
we can't support all STi platforms with the same userspace because
the firmware filenames aren't unique enough.

> 
> Then you can have a different compatible for each:
> 
>   compatible = "st,stih407-fdma-mpe31-audio";
>   compatible = "st,stih407-fdma-mpe31-app";
>   compatible = "st,stih407-fdma-mpe31-free-running";

I think if you took the approach of only using the compatible
you would still need to use the fdma instance number
otherwise you end up with the same problems discussed in the 
"Firmware filename in DT" thread [1] e.g.

   compatible = "st,stih407-fdma-mpe31-0";
   compatible = "st,stih407-fdma-mpe31-1";
   compatible = "st,stih407-fdma-mpe31-2";

Specifically the problem is related to

"The hardware is identical, and different firmware is used to apply
   it in different ways."

Which is the case with fdma. By encoding the "way you wish to apply it" into the
compatible string, it causes problems if you want to change for example fdma0
to do some other function other than audio.

You then require a DT update, (when the hardware hasn't changed, just the
firmware) which is the same problem as using the filename directly in DT.

Therefore I believe it is important that the DT binding does *not* encode the
way the hardware is to be applied into the binding in *any* way, and defers this
 decision to the driver.
That is the rationale / reasoning behind choosing the fdma instance number.

Assuming you agree with my arguments above, then the choice becomes between 
having a fdma instance DT property, or having lots of compatibles where the only
difference is the appending of the instance number. I think out of the two I prefer
my original approach.

Any thoughts from the DT folks?

regards,

Peter.

[1] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.devicetree/133782
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-29 10:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-11 14:14 [PATCH v2 0/9] Add support for FDMA DMA controller found on STi chipsets Peter Griffin
2015-09-11 14:14 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] dmaengine: st_fdma: Add STMicroelectronics FDMA DT binding documentation Peter Griffin
2015-09-11 20:36   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-09-12 12:07     ` Peter Griffin
2015-09-14  8:19       ` Lee Jones
2015-09-29 10:04         ` Peter Griffin [this message]
2015-09-29 11:17           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-09-29 12:11             ` Peter Griffin
2015-09-29 12:30               ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-09-29 13:42                 ` Peter Griffin
2015-09-29 14:15                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-13 11:18                     ` Peter Griffin
2015-09-11 14:14 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] dmaengine: st_fdma: Add st fdma platform specific header Peter Griffin
2015-09-11 20:32   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-09-29  9:24     ` Peter Griffin
2015-09-29 11:10       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-09-11 14:14 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] dmaengine: st_fdma: Add STMicroelectronics FDMA engine driver support Peter Griffin
2015-09-11 20:30   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-09-29 10:23     ` Peter Griffin
2015-10-07 11:15   ` Vinod Koul
     [not found] ` <1441980871-24475-1-git-send-email-peter.griffin-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-11 14:14   ` [PATCH v2 3/9] dmaengine: st_fdma: Add STMicroelectronics FDMA driver header file Peter Griffin
     [not found]     ` <1441980871-24475-4-git-send-email-peter.griffin-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-08 15:43       ` Koul, Vinod
2015-10-13 10:41         ` Peter Griffin
     [not found]         ` <1444118413.3579.46.camel-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-13 10:43           ` Peter Griffin
2015-09-11 14:14   ` [PATCH v2 5/9] dmaengine: st_fdma: Add xp70 firmware loading mechanism Peter Griffin
2015-10-07 11:22     ` Vinod Koul
2015-10-13 10:53       ` Peter Griffin
2015-09-11 14:14   ` [PATCH v2 6/9] dmaengine: st_fdma: Add fdma suspend and resume callbacks Peter Griffin
2015-10-07 11:23     ` Vinod Koul
     [not found]       ` <20151007112346.GC4810-bQVUxfxUtC13uc1i7fC1zK2pdiUAq4bhAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-13 11:19         ` Peter Griffin
2015-10-13 11:33           ` Koul, Vinod
2015-09-11 14:14 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] ARM: STi: DT: STiH407: Add FDMA driver dt nodes Peter Griffin
2015-09-11 16:27   ` Lee Jones
2015-09-11 16:48     ` Peter Griffin
2015-09-11 17:55       ` Lee Jones
2015-09-11 18:06         ` Peter Griffin
2015-09-11 19:33           ` Lee Jones
2015-09-12 12:23             ` Peter Griffin
2015-09-11 14:14 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] MAINTAINERS: Add FDMA driver files to STi section Peter Griffin
2015-09-11 16:22   ` Lee Jones
2015-09-11 14:14 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] ARM: multi_v7_defconfig: Enable STi FDMA driver Peter Griffin
2015-09-11 16:22   ` Lee Jones

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