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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com>,
	peterz@infradead.org, Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	will.deacon@arm.com, morten.rasmussen@arm.com,
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	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, Chen-Yu Tsai <wens@csie.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Gregory CLEMENT <gregory.clement@free-electrons.com>,
	linux@arm.linux.org.uk, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sudeep.holla@arm.com,
	Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/8] Documentation: arm: define DT cpu capacity bindings
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 16:41:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151215164145.GA8012@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151215162317.GB24286@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 04:23:18PM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 03:57:37PM +0000, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 03:46:51PM +0000, Juri Lelli wrote:
> > > On 15/12/15 15:32, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 03:08:13PM +0000, Mark Brown wrote:
> > > > > My expectation is that we just need good enough, not perfect, and that
> > > > > seems to match what Juri is saying about the expectation that most of
> > > > > the fine tuning is done via other knobs.
> > > > 
> > > > My expectation is that if a ballpark figure is good enough, it should be
> > > > possible to implement something trivial like bogomips / loop_per_jiffy
> > > > calculation.
> > > 
> > > I didn't really followed that, so I might be wrong here, but isn't
> > > already happened a discussion about how we want/like to stop exposing
> > > bogomips info or rely on it for anything but in kernel delay loops?
> > 
> > I meant that we could have a benchmark of that level of complexity,
> > rather than those specific values.
> 
> Or we could simply let user space use whatever benchmarks or hard-coded
> values it wants and set the capacity via sysfs (during boot). By
> default, the kernel would assume all CPUs equal.

I assume that a userspace override would be available regardless of
whatever mechanism the kernel uses to determine relative
performance/effinciency.

I am not opposed to that mechanism being "assume equal".

Mark.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-15 16:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-23 14:28 [RFC PATCH 0/8] CPUs capacity information for heterogeneous systems Juri Lelli
2015-11-23 14:28 ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] ARM: initialize cpu_scale to its default Juri Lelli
2015-11-30 11:13   ` Vincent Guittot
2015-11-23 14:28 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] Documentation: arm: define DT cpu capacity bindings Juri Lelli
2015-11-24  2:06   ` Rob Herring
2015-11-24 10:54     ` Juri Lelli
2015-11-30  9:59       ` Vincent Guittot
2015-12-01 11:20         ` Juri Lelli
2015-12-10 14:14           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-12-11 10:09             ` Juri Lelli
2015-12-10 15:30     ` Mark Brown
2015-12-10 17:58       ` Juri Lelli
2015-12-11 17:49         ` Mark Brown
     [not found]           ` <20151211174940.GQ5727-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-14 12:36             ` Juri Lelli
2015-12-14 16:59               ` Mark Brown
2015-12-15 12:22                 ` Juri Lelli
2015-12-15 13:39                   ` Mark Brown
2015-12-15 14:01                     ` Mark Rutland
2015-12-15 14:24                       ` Juri Lelli
2015-12-15 14:50                         ` Mark Rutland
2015-12-15 15:36                           ` Juri Lelli
2015-12-15 15:08                       ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                         ` <20151215150813.GZ5727-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-15 15:32                           ` Mark Rutland
2015-12-15 15:46                             ` Juri Lelli
2015-12-15 15:57                               ` Mark Rutland
2015-12-15 16:23                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-12-15 16:41                                   ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2015-12-15 16:59                                     ` Vincent Guittot
     [not found]                                       ` <CAKfTPtAuosPcL8bbQ27Y-vUE1h4QRY8hGESnm4YrxqRAQ3K=5g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-15 17:15                                         ` Mark Rutland
2015-12-15 17:47                                           ` Vincent Guittot
     [not found]                                             ` <CAKfTPtBzWcNHx+Fi7hUabNpPsd1thFAkPnLcpsnqbQp6Qq24cQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-15 18:39                                               ` Mark Rutland
2015-12-15 17:17                             ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                               ` <20151215171713.GA5727-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-15 17:28                                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-12-15 17:45                                   ` Mark Brown
2015-12-15 18:10                                     ` Mark Rutland
2015-12-15 18:45                                       ` Mark Brown
2015-12-17  9:07                                     ` Juri Lelli
2015-12-15 13:55                   ` Vincent Guittot
2015-11-23 14:28 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] arm: parse cpu capacity from DT Juri Lelli
2015-12-10 14:14   ` Dietmar Eggemann
     [not found]     ` <566988DD.9080005-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-11 10:12       ` Juri Lelli
2015-11-23 14:28 ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] arm, dts: add TC2 cpu capacity information Juri Lelli
2015-11-23 14:28 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] arm64: parse cpu capacity from DT Juri Lelli
2015-12-10 14:15   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-12-11 10:07     ` Juri Lelli
2015-11-23 14:28 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] arm64, dts: add Juno cpu capacity information Juri Lelli
2015-11-23 14:28 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] arm: add sysfs cpu_capacity attribute Juri Lelli
2015-11-23 14:28 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] arm64: " Juri Lelli
2015-12-10 14:15   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-12-10 15:59     ` Mark Brown
2015-12-10 18:01       ` Juri Lelli
2015-12-11 17:54         ` Mark Brown
2015-12-07 12:02 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] CPUs capacity information for heterogeneous systems Juri Lelli
2015-12-07 12:11   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-12-07 12:36     ` Juri Lelli
2015-12-07 13:18       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]         ` <20151207131843.GP8644-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-07 15:41           ` Juri Lelli

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