From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
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Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/8] Documentation: arm: define DT cpu capacity bindings
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:10:03 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151215181002.GA8568@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151215174516.GB5727@sirena.org.uk>
On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 05:45:16PM +0000, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 05:28:37PM +0000, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 05:17:13PM +0000, Mark Brown wrote:
>
> > > Obviously people are going to get upset if we introduce performance
> > > regressions - but that's true always, we can also introduce problems
> > > with numbers people have put in DT. It seems like it'd be harder to
> > > manage regressions due to externally provided magic numbers since
> > > there's inherently less information there.
>
> > It's certainly still possible to have regressions in that case. Those
> > regressions would be due to code changes in the kernel, given the DT
> > didn't change.
>
> > I'm not sure I follow w.r.t. "inherently less information", unless you
> > mean trying to debug without access to that DTB?
>
> If what the kernel knows about the system is that it's got a bunch of
> cores with numbers assigned to them then all it's really got is those
> numbers. If something changes that causes problems for some systems
> (eg, because the numbers have been picked poorly but in a way that
> happened to work well with the old code) that's not a lot to go on, the
> more we know about the system the more likely it is that we'll be able
> to adjust the assumptions in whatever new thing we do that causes
> problems for any particular systems where we run into trouble.
Regardless of where the numbers live (DT or kernel), all we have are
numbers. I can see that changing the in-kernel numbers would be possible
when modifyign the DT is not, but I don't see how that gives you more
information.
Mark.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-12-15 18:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-23 14:28 [RFC PATCH 0/8] CPUs capacity information for heterogeneous systems Juri Lelli
2015-11-23 14:28 ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] ARM: initialize cpu_scale to its default Juri Lelli
2015-11-30 11:13 ` Vincent Guittot
2015-11-23 14:28 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] Documentation: arm: define DT cpu capacity bindings Juri Lelli
2015-11-24 2:06 ` Rob Herring
2015-11-24 10:54 ` Juri Lelli
2015-11-30 9:59 ` Vincent Guittot
2015-12-01 11:20 ` Juri Lelli
2015-12-10 14:14 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-12-11 10:09 ` Juri Lelli
2015-12-10 15:30 ` Mark Brown
2015-12-10 17:58 ` Juri Lelli
2015-12-11 17:49 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20151211174940.GQ5727-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-14 12:36 ` Juri Lelli
2015-12-14 16:59 ` Mark Brown
2015-12-15 12:22 ` Juri Lelli
2015-12-15 13:39 ` Mark Brown
2015-12-15 14:01 ` Mark Rutland
2015-12-15 14:24 ` Juri Lelli
2015-12-15 14:50 ` Mark Rutland
2015-12-15 15:36 ` Juri Lelli
2015-12-15 15:08 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20151215150813.GZ5727-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-15 15:32 ` Mark Rutland
2015-12-15 15:46 ` Juri Lelli
2015-12-15 15:57 ` Mark Rutland
2015-12-15 16:23 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-12-15 16:41 ` Mark Rutland
2015-12-15 16:59 ` Vincent Guittot
[not found] ` <CAKfTPtAuosPcL8bbQ27Y-vUE1h4QRY8hGESnm4YrxqRAQ3K=5g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-15 17:15 ` Mark Rutland
2015-12-15 17:47 ` Vincent Guittot
[not found] ` <CAKfTPtBzWcNHx+Fi7hUabNpPsd1thFAkPnLcpsnqbQp6Qq24cQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-15 18:39 ` Mark Rutland
2015-12-15 17:17 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20151215171713.GA5727-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-15 17:28 ` Mark Rutland
2015-12-15 17:45 ` Mark Brown
2015-12-15 18:10 ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2015-12-15 18:45 ` Mark Brown
2015-12-17 9:07 ` Juri Lelli
2015-12-15 13:55 ` Vincent Guittot
2015-11-23 14:28 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] arm: parse cpu capacity from DT Juri Lelli
2015-12-10 14:14 ` Dietmar Eggemann
[not found] ` <566988DD.9080005-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-11 10:12 ` Juri Lelli
2015-11-23 14:28 ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] arm, dts: add TC2 cpu capacity information Juri Lelli
2015-11-23 14:28 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] arm64: parse cpu capacity from DT Juri Lelli
2015-12-10 14:15 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-12-11 10:07 ` Juri Lelli
2015-11-23 14:28 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] arm64, dts: add Juno cpu capacity information Juri Lelli
2015-11-23 14:28 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] arm: add sysfs cpu_capacity attribute Juri Lelli
2015-11-23 14:28 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] arm64: " Juri Lelli
2015-12-10 14:15 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-12-10 15:59 ` Mark Brown
2015-12-10 18:01 ` Juri Lelli
2015-12-11 17:54 ` Mark Brown
2015-12-07 12:02 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] CPUs capacity information for heterogeneous systems Juri Lelli
2015-12-07 12:11 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-12-07 12:36 ` Juri Lelli
2015-12-07 13:18 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20151207131843.GP8644-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-07 15:41 ` Juri Lelli
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