From: Peter Chen <hzpeterchen-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern-nwvwT67g6+6dFdvTe/nMLpVzexx5G7lz@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/1] USB: core: let USB device know device node
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 16:15:10 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160118081510.GF8150@shlinux2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1601161115050.11338-100000-pYrvlCTfrz9XsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 11:40:32AM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jan 2016, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>
> > > This leaves the question of whether OF will always use the same node to
> > > represent the host controller and the root hub. In other words, if a
> > > motherboard has a fixed device plugged into a fixed root-hub port, will
> > > the DT description make that device a child of the host controller?
> > > Or will there be a node in between (to represent the root hub)?
> >
> > Good question. I'm sure the answer is somewhere in this document
> >
> > http://www.firmware.org/1275/bindings/usb/usb-1_0.ps
> >
> > but unfortunately I don't understand USB addressing well enough
> > to answer this. I think the key sentence is the definition of the
> > "reg" property:
> >
> > | prop-encoded-array: one integer, encoded as with encode-int.
> > | The "reg" property for a device node shall consist of the number of the
> > | USB hub port or the USB host controller port to which this USB device
> > | is attached. As specified in [2] section 11.11.2.1, port numbers range
> > | from 1 to 255.
> >
> > Does the root hub have a port number relative to the host controller,
> > or is it identical to the host controller from the addressing
> > perspective?
>
> The root hub does not have a port number relative to the host
> controller. In a sense, the root hub is _part_ of the host controller;
> it represents the controller's connection to the USB bus (whereas the
> logical device we commonly associate with the host controller
> represents the controller's connection to the upstream PCI/whatever
> bus).
>
> You can also ask whether port numbers relative to the root hub are
> the same as the port numbers relative to the controller. Under normal
> circumstances they are the same. However, it is possible that they
> will be different for USB-3 host controllers (!).
>
> This is because USB-3 uses two buses per controller: the legacy
> Low-Speed/Full-Speed/High-Speed bus compatible with USB-1.1 and USB-2
> devices, and the new SuperSpeed bus compatible with USB-3 devices.
> Even though there's only the one controller, each bus has its own root
> hub and the ports for each root hub are numbered starting from 1.
> Thus, for example, an xHCI controller with 6 LS/FS/HS ports and 3 SS
> ports would have a USB-2 root hub with ports 1-6 and a USB-3 root hub
> with ports 1-3. However, xHCI treats the controller as a single entity
> and numbers all the ports sequentially; thus the controller would have
> ports 1-9. (Even though the three SS ports would be the same physical
> objects as three of the LS/FS/HS ports -- USB-3 ports literally contain
> two independent sets of signal wires.)
Sorry, I have not USB-3 platform now.
I have several questions:
- For USB-3, how many times hub_configure() will be called for root hub?
One or two?
- Which the value of hub->descriptor->bNbrPorts for root hub?
>
> This isn't merely a convention in the specifications; the hardware
> actually uses both numbering schemes (although I don't know about USB-3
> controllers other than xHCI; they might be different). Untangling this
> mess might be difficult. I don't know how existing DT files handle it.
>
--
Best Regards,
Peter Chen
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2016-01-15 9:17 [PATCH v3 1/1] USB: core: let USB device know device node Peter Chen
[not found] ` <1452849447-25025-1-git-send-email-peter.chen-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-15 11:11 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-15 15:11 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1601151006330.1533-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-15 23:03 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-16 16:40 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1601161115050.11338-100000-pYrvlCTfrz9XsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18 8:15 ` Peter Chen [this message]
2016-01-18 16:46 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1601181139150.25155-100000-pYrvlCTfrz9XsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 3:08 ` Peter Chen
2016-01-19 11:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-19 15:12 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1601191009190.1727-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-20 3:48 ` Peter Chen
2016-01-20 9:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-20 12:50 ` Peter Chen
2016-01-20 14:19 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-21 3:15 ` Peter Chen
2016-01-21 8:41 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-21 9:48 ` Peter Chen
2016-01-21 10:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-21 15:21 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1601211015010.2275-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-21 22:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-22 6:59 ` Peter Chen
2016-01-22 10:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-22 15:55 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1601221023350.1626-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-22 16:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-22 19:29 ` Alan Stern
2016-01-25 1:55 ` Peter Chen
2016-01-25 3:57 ` Peter Chen
[not found] ` <CAL411-qfzcynzc=YrepzcA6EmFuxy-Ri4xRQ+R-QVBDEPZXtZQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-25 8:50 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-25 9:31 ` Peter Chen
2016-01-25 15:23 ` Alan Stern
2016-01-18 10:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-18 7:44 ` Peter Chen
2016-01-18 7:42 ` Peter Chen
2016-01-15 17:07 ` Philipp Zabel
[not found] ` <1452877630.6067.97.camel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-15 17:30 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1601151220020.1533-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18 7:13 ` Peter Chen
2016-01-18 16:39 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1601181129340.25155-100000-pYrvlCTfrz9XsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 2:52 ` Peter Chen
2016-01-18 7:10 ` Peter Chen
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