From: Andreas Kemnade <andreas@kemnade.info>
To: One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: "H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns@goldelico.com>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [Gta04-owner] [PATCH 0/4] UART slave device support - version 4
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 07:32:31 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160119073231.19f16f28@kemnade.info> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160118220319.051c9cc0@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
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On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 22:03:19 +0000
One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
> > > Your user space can do it (as most Android does).
> >
> > How can it do it in automatically in a standardized way without need for daemon support?
>
> You don't need to - it can be device specific. In Android it usually is.
> I've never understood why low end devices don't also abstract user space
> descriptions of power control into DT nodes as well as kernel properties ?
>
Well, on these android devices, they are only intended to run android and
have another abstraction layer where you can hide things.
If doing actions on opening or closing a tty should not be implemented in
kernel space, then an alternative I see would be to at least have proper
rfkill support for bluetooth and gps in kernel. Then userspace can at least
can talk to a standardised interface. So userspace just has to implement
generic things.
That would mean for the kernel drivers needed:
W2CBW003/bluetooth:
map the rfkill to just a simple regulator
W2SG0004/gps:
being notified about incoming data
a) the nice way: getting it from the tty/tty_port layer
(but requiring changes at generic kernel code)
or
b) the ugly way:
remux the data line as a gpio and simply look for state
changes during rfkill call (probably only during unblock)
The first characters after power on would probably be lost
toggle a gpio depending on the desired and detected state
Regards,
Andreas
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Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-11 1:56 [PATCH 0/4] UART slave device support - version 4 NeilBrown
2015-05-11 1:56 ` [PATCH 3/4] TTY: add support for uart_slave devices NeilBrown
2015-05-12 8:31 ` Paul Bolle
2015-05-12 23:35 ` NeilBrown
2015-05-11 1:56 ` [PATCH 1/4] TTY: use class_find_device to find port in uart_suspend/resume NeilBrown
2015-05-11 1:56 ` [PATCH 2/4] TTY: split tty_register_device_attr into 'initialize' and 'add' parts NeilBrown
2015-05-31 22:01 ` [PATCH 0/4] UART slave device support - version 4 Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <20150511013540.5709.93626.stgit-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-11 1:56 ` [PATCH 4/4] tty/slaves: add a driver to power on/off UART attached devices NeilBrown
2015-08-07 13:01 ` [PATCH 0/4] UART slave device support - version 4 Linus Walleij
2015-08-11 23:20 ` NeilBrown
2015-08-28 5:52 ` [Gta04-owner] " Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
[not found] ` <CD86D8CD-20D8-44EF-8245-A3E49C2D3EA7-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-28 7:02 ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-28 9:43 ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
[not found] ` <0579762D-51C2-45F0-A362-EE31215A40E8-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-28 11:04 ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-28 20:04 ` Christ van Willegen
2016-01-12 13:06 ` Tomeu Vizoso
2016-01-12 13:28 ` [Gta04-owner] " H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-13 19:15 ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-15 9:34 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-15 11:01 ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-15 15:05 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
[not found] ` <69F8E1E5-EF49-4C8E-88E9-973F82F7102E-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-15 15:43 ` Andrey Vostrikov
2016-01-15 16:08 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
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2016-01-15 17:16 ` Peter Hurley
[not found] ` <56992959.2020204-WaGBZJeGNqdsbIuE7sb01tBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-15 17:32 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-15 17:43 ` Peter Hurley
2016-01-15 17:58 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
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2016-01-15 19:23 ` Peter Hurley
2016-01-15 21:24 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-15 22:40 ` Rob Herring
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2016-01-16 7:34 ` Vostrikov Andrey
2016-01-16 23:31 ` Rob Herring
2016-01-17 8:53 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
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2016-01-17 14:19 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-17 17:57 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
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2016-01-17 19:38 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-18 8:17 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
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2016-01-18 8:56 ` Andrey Vostrikov
2016-01-18 11:52 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-18 11:19 ` One Thousand Gnomes
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[not found] ` <20160118111926.0882b422-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18 20:58 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
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2016-01-18 22:03 ` One Thousand Gnomes
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2016-01-18 22:32 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
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2016-01-19 14:25 ` One Thousand Gnomes
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2016-01-20 17:33 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-20 16:11 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
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2016-01-20 17:46 ` One Thousand Gnomes
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2016-01-20 18:03 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-21 10:01 ` Radek Polak
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2016-01-22 15:45 ` Tomeu Vizoso
2016-01-22 16:49 ` Rob Herring
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2016-01-22 20:12 ` One Thousand Gnomes
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2016-01-23 7:40 ` Andreas Kemnade
2016-01-23 12:19 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
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2016-01-23 17:28 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-23 22:04 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-24 17:10 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-25 10:36 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-19 6:32 ` Andreas Kemnade [this message]
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2016-01-20 19:38 ` Dmitry Torokhov
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2016-01-20 20:09 ` Vostrikov Andrey
2016-01-15 16:12 ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-15 19:16 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-15 19:40 ` Pavel Machek
2016-01-15 20:35 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
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2016-01-12 21:28 ` NeilBrown
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2016-01-13 19:00 ` Pavel Machek
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