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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org, leif.lindholm@linaro.org
Cc: Shannon Zhao <zhaoshenglong@huawei.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	stefano.stabellini@citrix.com, david.vrabel@citrix.com,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, will.deacon@arm.com,
	julien.grall@citrix.com, xen-devel@lists.xen.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, shannon.zhao@linaro.org,
	peter.huangpeng@huawei.com, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@novell.com>,
	Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 12/16] ARM: Xen: Document UEFI support on Xen ARM virtual platforms
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 13:13:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160119131348.GJ25024@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1601191217190.9400@kaball.uk.xensource.com>

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 12:23:17PM +0000, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jan 2016, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 06:25:25PM +0800, Shannon Zhao wrote:
> > > >> We don't do this in Documentation/arm/uefi.txt, and I don't see why we
> > > >> should do so here.
> > > >>
> > > >> Does Xen handle arbitrary size memory map descriptors? I'm not sure what
> > > >> new information might be passed in future additions to the descriptor
> > > >> format, and I'm not sure what should happen in the Dom0 case.
> > > > 
> > > > Xen passes to Dom0 the memory map in the same format as the native
> > > > memory map.
> > 
> > Does Xen parse or modify the EFI memory map in any way?
> 
> Xen:
> - calls EFI_BOOT_SERVICES.GetMemoryMap()
> - takes note of the memory regions for its own usage
> - create the fdt notes, including efi-mmap-start, with a pointer to it
> 
> 
> > Does it pass the raw values returned by EFI_BOOT_SERVICES.GetMemoryMap()
> > through to the xen,uefi-* properties, or does is make any static
> > assumptions about what the values will be?
> 
> It just passes the raw values.

I take it that means that any memory carved out for Xen itself is
described/discovered via a separate mechanism? How does that work?

> > I'm trying to get a feeling for what the behaviour will be if/when a
> > version of the EFI spec expands the memory map format.
> 
> Linux is likely to get the memory map in the same format as it's
> provided on native.

Ok.

The only fragility I forsee there would be if some extended memory
descriptor format defined things the kernel understood but Xen did not.

Given that would require an update to the kernel, at that point code is
added for that we can figure out how to determine whether Xen handled
any of said information, and whether any further negotiation with Xen is
necessary. I assume Xen exposes some feature probing mechanism to guests
that can cater for that if necessary.

Ard, Leif, I trust you two can keep an eye out for anything of that
sort on the UEFI side. :)

Thanks,
Mark.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-19 13:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-15  6:55 [PATCH v2 00/16] Add ACPI support for Xen Dom0 on ARM64 Shannon Zhao
2016-01-15  6:55 ` [PATCH v2 01/16] Xen: ACPI: Hide UART used by Xen Shannon Zhao
     [not found]   ` <1452840929-19612-2-git-send-email-zhaoshenglong-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-15 15:39     ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-01-18 10:32     ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-18 11:38       ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-01-15  6:55 ` [PATCH v2 02/16] xen/grant-table: Move xlated_setup_gnttab_pages to common place Shannon Zhao
2016-01-15 15:53   ` [Xen-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2016-01-15  6:55 ` [PATCH v2 03/16] Xen: xlate: Use page_to_xen_pfn instead of page_to_pfn Shannon Zhao
     [not found]   ` <1452840929-19612-4-git-send-email-zhaoshenglong-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-15 17:08     ` [Xen-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
     [not found]       ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1601151558010.16178-7Z66fg9igcxYtxbxJUhB2Dgeux46jI+i@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18  5:08         ` Shannon Zhao
     [not found]           ` <569C7363.80106-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 14:59             ` Stefano Stabellini
     [not found]               ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1601191456370.9400-7Z66fg9igcxYtxbxJUhB2Dgeux46jI+i@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 15:10                 ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-15  6:55 ` [PATCH v2 05/16] xen: memory : Add new XENMAPSPACE type XENMAPSPACE_dev_mmio Shannon Zhao
2016-01-15  6:55 ` [PATCH v2 06/16] Xen: ARM: Add support for mapping platform device mmio Shannon Zhao
     [not found]   ` <1452840929-19612-7-git-send-email-zhaoshenglong-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-15 17:39     ` [Xen-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2016-01-15  6:55 ` [PATCH v2 07/16] Xen: ARM: Add support for mapping AMBA " Shannon Zhao
     [not found]   ` <1452840929-19612-8-git-send-email-zhaoshenglong-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18 11:58     ` [Xen-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2016-01-15  6:55 ` [PATCH v2 08/16] xen/hvm/params: Add a new delivery type for event-channel in HVM_PARAM_CALLBACK_IRQ Shannon Zhao
     [not found]   ` <1452840929-19612-9-git-send-email-zhaoshenglong-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18 12:38     ` [Xen-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
     [not found]       ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1601181205110.16178-7Z66fg9igcxYtxbxJUhB2Dgeux46jI+i@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18 12:42         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-18 12:46           ` Stefano Stabellini
     [not found]             ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1601181244300.16178-7Z66fg9igcxYtxbxJUhB2Dgeux46jI+i@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18 12:52               ` Andrew Cooper
     [not found]                 ` <569CE00C.5050406-Sxgqhf6Nn4DQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-20  6:33                   ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-20  8:39                     ` Andrew Cooper
     [not found]                       ` <569F47C8.9080005-Sxgqhf6Nn4DQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-20  8:45                         ` [Xen-devel] " Shannon Zhao
2016-01-15  6:55 ` [PATCH v2 09/16] arm/xen: Get event-channel irq through HVM_PARAM when booting with ACPI Shannon Zhao
     [not found]   ` <1452840929-19612-10-git-send-email-zhaoshenglong-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18 14:38     ` [Xen-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
     [not found]       ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1601181351400.16178-7Z66fg9igcxYtxbxJUhB2Dgeux46jI+i@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19  8:21         ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-15  6:55 ` [PATCH v2 10/16] ARM: XEN: Move xen_early_init() before efi_init() Shannon Zhao
     [not found]   ` <1452840929-19612-11-git-send-email-zhaoshenglong-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18 14:59     ` [Xen-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
     [not found]       ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1601181445210.16178-7Z66fg9igcxYtxbxJUhB2Dgeux46jI+i@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19  8:36         ` Shannon Zhao
     [not found]           ` <569DF590.6030105-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 12:14             ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-01-15  6:55 ` [PATCH v2 11/16] ARM64: ACPI: Check if it runs on Xen to enable or disable ACPI Shannon Zhao
     [not found]   ` <1452840929-19612-12-git-send-email-zhaoshenglong-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18 10:41     ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-18 15:07       ` Stefano Stabellini
     [not found]         ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1601181505200.16178-7Z66fg9igcxYtxbxJUhB2Dgeux46jI+i@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19  8:41           ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-15  6:55 ` [PATCH v2 12/16] ARM: Xen: Document UEFI support on Xen ARM virtual platforms Shannon Zhao
     [not found]   ` <1452840929-19612-13-git-send-email-zhaoshenglong-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-17  3:43     ` Rob Herring
2016-01-18 10:51     ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-18 17:34       ` Stefano Stabellini
     [not found]         ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1601181710270.9400-7Z66fg9igcxYtxbxJUhB2Dgeux46jI+i@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 10:25           ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-19 10:47             ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-19 12:23               ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-01-19 13:13                 ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2016-01-19 13:18                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-01-19 13:43                   ` Shannon Zhao
     [not found]                     ` <569E3D9F.6050808-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 14:11                       ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-01-21 11:50                       ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-15  6:55 ` [PATCH v2 14/16] Xen: EFI: Parse DT parameters for Xen specific UEFI Shannon Zhao
     [not found]   ` <1452840929-19612-15-git-send-email-zhaoshenglong-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18 11:03     ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-18 15:41     ` [Xen-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
     [not found]       ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1601181533010.16178-7Z66fg9igcxYtxbxJUhB2Dgeux46jI+i@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 13:19         ` Shannon Zhao
     [not found]           ` <569E37C9.6040700-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 13:43             ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-19 13:46               ` Shannon Zhao
     [not found] ` <1452840929-19612-1-git-send-email-zhaoshenglong-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-15  6:55   ` [PATCH v2 04/16] arm/xen: Use xen_xlate_map_ballooned_pages to setup grant table Shannon Zhao
     [not found]     ` <1452840929-19612-5-git-send-email-zhaoshenglong-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-15 17:21       ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-01-15  6:55   ` [PATCH v2 13/16] ARM: XEN: Set EFI_PARAVIRT if Xen supports EFI Shannon Zhao
     [not found]     ` <1452840929-19612-14-git-send-email-zhaoshenglong-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18 10:57       ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-15  6:55   ` [PATCH v2 15/16] XEN: EFI: Move x86 specific codes to architecture directory Shannon Zhao
2016-01-15  6:55   ` [PATCH v2 16/16] ARM64: XEN: Initialize Xen specific UEFI runtime services Shannon Zhao
     [not found]     ` <1452840929-19612-17-git-send-email-zhaoshenglong-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18 11:08       ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-18 17:45         ` Stefano Stabellini
     [not found]           ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1601181736090.9400-7Z66fg9igcxYtxbxJUhB2Dgeux46jI+i@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18 18:27             ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-19 12:03               ` Stefano Stabellini
     [not found]                 ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1601191143590.9400-7Z66fg9igcxYtxbxJUhB2Dgeux46jI+i@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 13:03                   ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-19 13:31                     ` Shannon Zhao
     [not found]                       ` <569E3ACE.5080506-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 14:20                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-01-18 17:03       ` [Xen-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
     [not found]         ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1601181634070.9400-7Z66fg9igcxYtxbxJUhB2Dgeux46jI+i@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 13:12           ` Shannon Zhao
     [not found]             ` <569E3654.90100-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 14:24               ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-01-22  3:58         ` Shannon Zhao
     [not found]           ` <56A1A8D5.1020500-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-22 10:57             ` Stefano Stabellini

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