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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "Gabriel L. Somlo" <somlo@cmu.edu>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 1/4] firmware: introduce sysfs driver for QEMU's fw_cfg device
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:14:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160223160555-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160223134700.GL16357@HEDWIG.INI.CMU.EDU>

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 08:47:00AM -0500, Gabriel L. Somlo wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 07:07:36AM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 03:26:23PM -0500, Gabriel L. Somlo wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:14:50PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 08:06:17AM -0500, Gabriel L. Somlo wrote:
> > > > > > > +static void fw_cfg_io_cleanup(void)
> > > > > > > +{
> > > > > > > +	if (fw_cfg_is_mmio) {
> > > > > > > +		iounmap(fw_cfg_dev_base);
> > > > > > > +		release_mem_region(fw_cfg_p_base, fw_cfg_p_size);
> > > > > > > +	} else {
> > > > > > > +		ioport_unmap(fw_cfg_dev_base);
> > > > > > > +		release_region(fw_cfg_p_base, fw_cfg_p_size);
> > > > > > > +	}
> > > > > > > +}
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +/* arch-specific ctrl & data register offsets are not available in ACPI, DT */
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So for all arches which support ACPI, I think this driver
> > > > > > should just rely on ACPI.
> > > > > 
> > > > > There was a discussion about that a few versions ago, and IIRC the
> > > > > conclusion was not to expect the firmware to contend for fw_cfg access
> > > > > after the guest kernel boots:
> > > > > 
> > > > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/10/5/283
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > So it looks like NVDIMM at least wants to pass label data to guest -
> > > > for which fw cfg might be a reasonable choice.
> > > > 
> > > > I suspect things changed - fw cfg used to be very slow but we now have
> > > > DMA interface which makes it useful for a range of applications.
> > 
> > Comment on this? I'm really worried we'll release linux
> > without a way to access fw cfg from aml.
> > How about taking acpi lock around all accesses?
> 
> You mean something like this (haven't tried compiling it yet, so it
> might be a bit more complicated, but just for the purpose of this
> conversation):
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/firmware/qemu_fw_cfg.c
> b/drivers/firmware/qemu_fw_cfg.c
> index fedbff5..3462a2c 100644
> --- a/drivers/firmware/qemu_fw_cfg.c
> +++ b/drivers/firmware/qemu_fw_cfg.c
> @@ -77,12 +77,18 @@ static inline u16 fw_cfg_sel_endianness(u16 key)
>  static inline void fw_cfg_read_blob(u16 key,
>                                     void *buf, loff_t pos, size_t
> count)
>  {
> +#ifdef CONFIG_ACPI
> +       acpi_os_acquire_mutex(acpi_gbl_osi_mutex, ACPI_WAIT_FOREVER);
> +#endif
>         mutex_lock(&fw_cfg_dev_lock);
>         iowrite16(fw_cfg_sel_endianness(key), fw_cfg_reg_ctrl);
>         while (pos-- > 0)
>                 ioread8(fw_cfg_reg_data);
>         ioread8_rep(fw_cfg_reg_data, buf, count);
>         mutex_unlock(&fw_cfg_dev_lock);
> +#ifdef CONFIG_ACPI
> +       acpi_os_release_mutex(acpi_gbl_osi_mutex);
> +#endif
>  }
>  
>  /* clean up fw_cfg device i/o */

Fundamentally yes.

> I wouldn't particularly *mind* doing that, but I'd still like to hear
> from other QEMU devs on whether it's really necessary.

It seems like a prudent thing to do IMHO, before this
goes out to users.

> > > > > (I even had a prototype version doing what you suggested, but per the above
> > > > > reference decided to drop it -- which IMHO is for the better, since otherwise
> > > > > I'd have had to ifdef between ACPI and non-ACPI versions of the driver --
> > > > > see https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/11/4/534 )
> > > > 
> > > > I'm not sure why you have these ifdefs - they are on the host, are they
> > > > not?
> > > 
> > > Think of those as "pseudocode" ifdefs, they're there to distinguish
> > > between AML that would be generated on MMIO vs. IOPORT systems
> > > (specifically, arm vs. x86, respectively)
> > > 
> > > Some of the AML is the same, but obviously the _CRS, and
> > > OperationRegion + Field are different, and I wanted to point that out
> > > somehow :)
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > --Gabriel
> > 
> > You can do ifs as well.
> 
> Yeah, but the AML is generated from arch-specific locations in QEMU,
> so we'd be doing MMIO-only from e.g. hw/arm/virt-acpi-build.c, and
> IOPORT-only from hw/i386/acpi-build.c, etc. I wouldnt need to write a
> generic AML blob with 'if' statements and insert it the same way on
> all architectures, or would I ? Not sure what the best practice would
> be for that :)

Just regular C, put common code in a common function.

> Speaking of AML, if we were to implement a "RDBL" (read-blob) method
> for fw_cfg in AML, and call it from the guest-side kernel module,
> we'll never be able to make it use DMA on ACPI systems. The way
> fw_cfg_read_blob is written now, we could patch that in at some later
> point. So that's an argument in favor of *at most* wrapping
> acpi_os_acquire_mutex() around the current fw_cfg_read_blob, rather
> than including an acpi-specific version implemented on top of an
> AML call.
> 
> Thanks,
> --Gabriel

On balance, I think locking ACPI solves most problems so
if we just do that, I think what you did here is fine.

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-23 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-28 14:23 [PATCH v8 0/4] SysFS driver for QEMU fw_cfg device Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-01-28 14:23 ` [PATCH v8 1/4] firmware: introduce sysfs driver for QEMU's " Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-21  8:30   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-21 13:06     ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-21 13:10       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]         ` <20160221150904-mutt-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-21 17:20           ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-21 13:14       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]       ` <20160221130614.GA4511-VPZ87SnTp2qKUezXOiBB2eW1CriLhL8O@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-22 20:14         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]           ` <20160222220756-mutt-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-22 20:26             ` Gabriel L. Somlo
     [not found]               ` <20160222202623.GI16357-h65ZQ0r4j6KKUezXOiBB2eW1CriLhL8O@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-23  5:07                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-23 13:47                   ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-23 14:14                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
     [not found]                       ` <20160223160555-mutt-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-24  0:03                         ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-01-28 14:23 ` [PATCH v8 2/4] kobject: export kset_find_obj() for module use Gabriel L. Somlo
     [not found]   ` <1453990994-17801-3-git-send-email-somlo-D+Gtc/HYRWM@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-07  7:24     ` Greg KH
     [not found]       ` <20160207072423.GC16215-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-07 14:27         ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-01-28 14:23 ` [PATCH v8 3/4] firmware: create directory hierarchy for sysfs fw_cfg entries Gabriel L. Somlo
     [not found] ` <1453990994-17801-1-git-send-email-somlo-D+Gtc/HYRWM@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-28 14:23   ` [PATCH v8 4/4] devicetree: update documentation for fw_cfg ARM bindings Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-03 22:47   ` [PATCH v8 0/4] SysFS driver for QEMU fw_cfg device Matt Fleming
2016-02-10  1:38     ` Greg KH

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