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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
Cc: rank Rowand
	<frowand.list-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	pantelis.antoniou-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org,
	Masahiro Yamada
	<yamada.masahiro-uWyLwvC0a2jby3iVrkZq2A@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List
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	linux-arm-kernel
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Subject: Re: [Question] refcount of DT node
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 19:38:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160414183855.GU19428@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160414095957.GB10273@leverpostej>

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 10:59:57AM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 09:48:49AM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 04:47:57PM +0900, Masahiro Yamada wrote:
> > > Hi experts.
> > > 
> > > My understanding of refcount of DT node is poor.
> > 
> > The message from DT people is... don't worry about DT node refcounting.
> > Do whatever you want with it, they don't care whether you have correct
> > refcounting or not.
> > 
> > The background behind that is that I've tried to fix the refcounting,
> > and even had the coccinelle people generate some stuff to work on this
> > issue, but DT people's attitude towards it is "don't bother".
> > 
> > So yes, people may get it wrong, but it seems it's something that DT
> > people want ignored.
> 
> I'm not sure that's quite fair; the last discussion I recall about this
> ended up concluding that we need a better API, rather than papering over
> problems.

Sorry, but I started out trying to get the of_node_put() stuff
correct, and sparked Julia into doing coccinelle patches, and I
was told by Rob that we shouldn't care about of_node_put() being
wrong, and the feeling is as I stated it: DT folk don't care
enough to fix the existing places, even though a great many can
be sorted via the coccinelle approach.

Their stance is not something I agree with - if we have something,
it should be correct, even if it's not what we would ultimately
desire, _or_ it should be removed.  This half-way house that we
have today is total madness to me.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-04-14 18:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-14  7:47 [Question] refcount of DT node Masahiro Yamada
2016-04-14  8:48 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]   ` <20160414084849.GT19428-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-14  9:59     ` Mark Rutland
2016-04-14 10:02       ` Pantelis Antoniou
     [not found]         ` <06E9E2D3-4627-4970-ABBB-34B5ED620709-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-14 16:10           ` Frank Rowand
2016-04-14 17:02           ` Rob Herring
2016-04-14 18:38       ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2016-04-16 15:02         ` Masahiro Yamada
     [not found] ` <CAK7LNATFUW2KXUpFas6C_SJ0C7Qb1DWU0njLg-FCYciK2U6Oag-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-14 10:10   ` Mark Rutland
2016-04-14 10:40     ` Pantelis Antoniou

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