devicetree.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
Cc: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	Jaehoon Chung <jh80.chung@samsung.com>,
	Shawn Lin <shawn.lin@rock-chips.com>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	Stefan Agner <stefan@agner.ch>,
	"linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
	Jisheng Zhang <jszhang@marvell.com>,
	"open list:ARM/Rockchip SoC..."
	<linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org>,
	devicetree-spec@vger.kernel.org,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Venu Byravarasu <vbyravarasu@nvidia.com>,
	Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
	Jon Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>Pawel
	Moll <p>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk numbering w/ device tree
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 22:29:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160429212920.GA19428@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD=FV=V8BOsO36eUOGAcXp04xCiN13UGG0Vaf2yhh1MQn85FjA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 02:17:45PM -0700, Doug Anderson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
> <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 01:04:48PM -0700, Doug Anderson wrote:
> >> Russell,
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
> >> <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> >> >> * Presumably on a PC you've got an extra bit in the middle (like grub
> >> >> or something like that) that can help you resolve your UUIDs even if
> >> >> you get your kernel from somewhere else.
> >> >
> >> > You are over-estimating what grub does.  Grub doesn't resolve UUIDs at
> >> > all.  Grub just passes the kernel arguments in its configuration file
> >> > for the entry it is booting to the kernel.  It's a static configuration
> >> > found in /boot/grub/grub.conf.
> >> >
> >> > It doesn't probe devices for UUIDs.
> >>
> >> OK.  The point was: if folks on PCs have a workflow that works for
> >> them, wonderful.  That workflow doesn't work so great for me.  My
> >> workflow doesn't hurt them.  Why is it bad?
> >
> > This discussion is over, since you're not willing to actually discuss
> > it (illustrated by you cutting and pasting this same thing four
> > times in your reply.)
> >
> > My NAK stands until such time that you can partake in a reasonable
> > discussion.
> 
> The point of pasting it several times was that you'd answer it.
> Apparently that failed.
> 
> Perhaps you could answer the question I posed?

No, because you haven't taken the time to think and consider my
reply, which gives you insight into how your "problem" is no
different from the situation that everyone else has, where it
isn't a problem.

I think the "problem" here is that you've got used to coreboot
doing something that very few other boot loaders do, namely it
automatically extracting a rootfs UUID for you.  The rest of the
world doesn't have that luxury.

So, instead, you want to stuff more code into the kernel to work
around what you think is a problem - a problem which seems to be
unique to yourself.

The UUID and label solutions were created by x86 people to work
around exactly this dynamic device problem, and as my previous
replies have shown, it is superior to fixing the device assignment
as you're trying to do.

However, I don't expect that you'll like this answer, and you'll
probably just re-post your same question after each and every
paragraph rather than considering whether the already existing
solutions could solve your "problem".  So I'm just wasting my time.

This is my last reply.

-- 
RMK's Patch system: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/patches/
FTTC broadband for 0.8mile line: currently at 9.6Mbps down 400kbps up
according to speedtest.net.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-29 21:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-29 17:32 [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk numbering w/ device tree Douglas Anderson
2016-04-29 17:32 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] ARM: dts: rockchip: Add mmc aliases for rk3288 platform Douglas Anderson
     [not found] ` <1461951139-6109-1-git-send-email-dianders-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-29 17:32   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] Documentation: mmc: Document mmc aliases Douglas Anderson
2016-04-29 18:12   ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Patches to allow consistent mmc / mmcblk numbering w/ device tree Rob Herring
     [not found]     ` <CAL_JsqKOADU1hyLj+3cHjTJ7wgkOi-z-iWvFD3Bx5dvB12j+KQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-29 19:31       ` Doug Anderson
     [not found]         ` <CAD=FV=XFZ+4o_QyOdkNZyZ6ZmyXNH1Fbn458oeAxAMLOB=fLkg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-29 19:50           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]             ` <20160429195007.GX19428-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-29 20:02               ` Doug Anderson
2016-04-29 18:12   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]     ` <20160429181248.GW19428-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-29 19:43       ` Doug Anderson
2016-04-29 19:57         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]           ` <20160429195741.GY19428-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-29 20:04             ` Doug Anderson
2016-04-29 21:13               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                 ` <20160429211328.GZ19428-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-29 21:17                   ` Doug Anderson
2016-04-29 21:29                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
     [not found]                       ` <20160429212920.GA19428-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-29 21:39                         ` Doug Anderson
2016-04-29 21:50                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-04-29 21:56                             ` Doug Anderson
2016-04-29 22:16                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-04-29 22:22                                 ` Doug Anderson
     [not found]                                   ` <CAD=FV=WzgGFzzpeYAPrOpMS684_G=XRoSRjTegK-vre=fX=kpw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-29 22:44                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-04-29 23:01                                       ` Doug Anderson
     [not found]                                         ` <CAD=FV=U5jnJJ3v=nFGFecoKB5KGv1ufC+aKbHx2iCqBTWpDTww-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-29 23:58                                           ` Peter Hurley
     [not found]                                             ` <CAD=FV=V_YyfBOSs7BLkyhv=_5HBmf3djUWACbL6d-bwnrueDjA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                               ` <CAD=FV=V_YyfBOSs7BLkyhv=_5HBmf3djUWACbL6d-bwnrueDjA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-30  0:31                                                 ` Peter Hurley
2016-04-30  2:29                                                   ` Doug Anderson
     [not found]                                                   ` <5723FCE3.9070308-WaGBZJeGNqdsbIuE7sb01tBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-30  8:38                                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-04-30 13:23                                           ` Rob Herring
2016-04-29 22:42                                 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-04-30 10:48                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                                     ` <20160430104832.GJ19428-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-03 19:17                                       ` Trent Piepho
2016-05-04  7:18     ` Pavel Machek
2016-05-04 12:25       ` Rob Herring
2016-05-04 12:46         ` Pavel Machek
2019-03-05 12:39 ` Måns Rullgård
2019-03-15 21:52   ` Tim Harvey
     [not found]     ` <CAJ+vNU1PxK-B63Dc3AgzYb9POyxxoF-xPOWBEpxJ+3eVNK8xqw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-03-15 23:00       ` Marek Vasut
2019-03-15 23:13         ` Tim Harvey
2019-03-15 23:23         ` Doug Anderson
2019-03-16 12:22         ` Måns Rullgård
2019-03-16 12:33           ` Marek Vasut
2019-03-16 15:39             ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-03-17 15:05               ` Stefan Agner
2019-03-17 15:43                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-03-17 15:50                   ` Marek Vasut
2019-03-17 16:48                 ` Måns Rullgård
2019-03-17 16:59                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-03-27 17:37                     ` Tim Harvey
2019-03-27 20:54                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20160429212920.GA19428@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk \
    --to=linux@arm.linux.org.uk \
    --cc=adrian.hunter@intel.com \
    --cc=computersforpeace@gmail.com \
    --cc=devicetree-spec@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=devicetree@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=dianders@chromium.org \
    --cc=dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com \
    --cc=heiko@sntech.de \
    --cc=jh80.chung@samsung.com \
    --cc=jonathanh@nvidia.com \
    --cc=jszhang@marvell.com \
    --cc=lars@metafoo.de \
    --cc=linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org \
    --cc=mark.rutland@arm.com \
    --cc=shawn.lin@rock-chips.com \
    --cc=stefan@agner.ch \
    --cc=ulf.hansson@linaro.org \
    --cc=vbyravarasu@nvidia.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).