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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Pratyush Anand <panand@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	Haren Myneni <hbabu@us.ibm.com>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Eric Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Santosh Shilimkar <ssantosh@kernel.org>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/12] ARM: kexec: advertise location of bootable RAM
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 11:10:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160502101030.GK19428@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHB_Guq+w7JKXEpLHkefMaYuYowh7dqsdvxgG_dnGv-GdkX39A@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 01:04:28PM +0530, Pratyush Anand wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 1:50 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
> <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 08:57:34AM +0530, Pratyush Anand wrote:
> >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 11:30 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
> >> <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 08:26:00PM +0530, Pratyush Anand wrote:
> >> >> Hi Russell,
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Russell King
> >> >> <rmk+kernel@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> >> >> > Advertise the location of bootable RAM to kexec-tools.  kexec needs to
> >> >> > know where it can place the kernel in RAM, and so be executable when
> >> >> > the system needs to jump into it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Advertise these areas in /proc/iomem with a "System RAM (boot alias)"
> >> >> > tag.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Signed-off-by: Russell King <rmk+kernel@arm.linux.org.uk>
> >> >>
> >> >> Can you please also share git tree path of corresponding kexec-tools changes?
> >> >>
> >> >> Could it be a better idea (if things in user space become simpler)
> >> >> that in stead of patch 5 and 6, we pass arch_phys_to_idmap_offset to
> >> >> user space, and then user space manipulates existing "Crash kernel"
> >> >> and "System RAM" resources.
> >> >
> >> > Given that it's only _one_ platform right now, I don't think that
> >> > additional complexity is worth it.  It means that we have to invent
> >>
> >> Probably, I could not communicate it well.  I was not trying  to have
> >> *additional* complexity. Wanted to see if things could be simpler
> >> rather. So this is what my understanding was:
> >> -- We create one patch to pass arch_phys_to_idmap_offset to user space
> >> (say in /sys/kernel/bootmem_idmap_offset)
> >> -- We do not use patch 5,6,11 and 12 of this series. Probably few more
> >> content of the series will go away.
> >
> > Patches 11 and 12 don't go away with what you're suggesting.  Patches
> > 11 and 12 are necessary to allow the boot-view addresses to be passed
> > into the kernel through kexec, and to allow kexec to find appropriate
> > memory resources.
> 
> But once we would have manipulated "start" and "end" of "Crash Kernel"
> and "System RAM" resources in user space using
> /sys/kernel/bootmem_idmap_offset , then kernel through kexec system
> call would have already receive boot-view addresses, no?

Correct, but that's still a problem for all the reasons I gave in the
email to which you replied to.

I'm not sure where the misunderstanding is.

Let me repeat: even if we do what you're suggesting, patches 11 and 12
do *not* go away.  I've explained in detail why each of the changes are
necessary (which you have cut from your reply.)

In other words: exporting this offset via
/sys/kernel/bootmem_idmap_offset is technically inferior to the solution
I have come up with here, and it saves very little complexity and code.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-02 10:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-28  9:26 [PATCH 00/12] Fixing TI Keystone2 kexec Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-04-28  9:27 ` [PATCH 01/12] ARM: kexec: fix crashkernel= handling Russell King
     [not found]   ` <E1aviEe-0000if-VZ-eh5Bv4kxaXIANfyc6IWni62ZND6+EDdj@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-29 14:17     ` Pratyush Anand
2016-04-28  9:27 ` [PATCH 02/12] ARM: provide improved virt_to_idmap() functionality Russell King
2016-04-28  9:27 ` [PATCH 03/12] ARM: kexec: remove 512MB restriction on kexec crashdump Russell King
2016-04-29 14:19   ` Pratyush Anand
     [not found]     ` <CAHB_GuqOvRof94QdHztPy2B2kKuyKzQ-9uxXHY_g+i5WxsexZg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-29 18:10       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-04-30  3:36         ` Pratyush Anand
2016-04-30  8:25           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-04-28  9:28 ` [PATCH 04/12] ARM: provide arm_has_idmap_alias() helper Russell King
2016-04-29 14:21   ` Pratyush Anand
2016-04-28  9:28 ` [PATCH 05/12] ARM: kdump: advertise boot aliased crash kernel resource Russell King
2016-04-28  9:28 ` [PATCH 06/12] ARM: kexec: advertise location of bootable RAM Russell King
2016-04-29 14:56   ` Pratyush Anand
2016-04-29 18:00     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-04-30  3:27       ` Pratyush Anand
2016-04-30  8:20         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-05-02  7:34           ` Pratyush Anand
2016-05-02 10:10             ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2016-05-02 10:48               ` Pratyush Anand
     [not found]     ` <CAHB_GurHc1aVfzJATpNW5yf5s5KkF=t5s09FbWq3+9+ZX39KUg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-03 10:29       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-04-28  9:28 ` [PATCH 07/12] ARM: keystone: dts: add psci command definition Russell King
2016-04-28  9:28 ` [PATCH 08/12] kexec: don't invoke OOM-killer for control page allocation Russell King
2016-04-29 14:57   ` Pratyush Anand
2016-04-28  9:28 ` [PATCH 09/12] kexec: ensure user memory sizes do not wrap Russell King
     [not found]   ` <E1aviFK-0000jY-1S-eh5Bv4kxaXIANfyc6IWni62ZND6+EDdj@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-29 14:57     ` Pratyush Anand
2016-04-28  9:28 ` [PATCH 10/12] kexec: arrange for paddr_vmcoreinfo_note() to return phys_addr_t Russell King
2016-04-29 15:06   ` Pratyush Anand
2016-04-29 15:16     ` Mark Rutland
2016-04-29 15:47       ` Pratyush Anand
2016-05-03  4:24         ` Baoquan He
2016-05-03  5:53           ` Pratyush Anand
2016-05-03  9:01             ` Baoquan He
     [not found]           ` <20160503042441.GA2518-ejN7fcUYdH/by3iVrkZq2A@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-03 10:12             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-05-03 12:56               ` Baoquan He
2016-04-29 18:06     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-04-30  3:30       ` Pratyush Anand
2016-04-28  9:28 ` [PATCH 11/12] kexec: allow architectures to override boot mapping Russell King
2016-04-29 15:14   ` Pratyush Anand
2016-04-29 18:08     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-05-11 18:56   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-05-12  6:26   ` Baoquan He
2016-05-12  8:22     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-04-28  9:28 ` [PATCH 12/12] ARM: kexec: fix kexec for Keystone 2 Russell King
2016-04-28 23:04 ` [PATCH 00/12] Fixing TI Keystone2 kexec Simon Horman
2016-05-11  8:29 ` Dave Young
2016-05-11  8:52   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-05-11  9:13     ` Dave Young
2016-05-11  9:32       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]         ` <20160511093255.GO19428-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-11 10:31           ` Dave Young

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