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From: David Gibson <david-xT8FGy+AXnRB3Ne2BGzF6laj5H9X9Tb+@public.gmane.org>
To: Pantelis Antoniou
	<pantelis.antoniou-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jon Loeliger <jdl-CYoMK+44s/E@public.gmane.org>,
	Grant Likely
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	Rob Herring <robherring2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Frank Rowand
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	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Matt Porter <mporter-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
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	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/4] dtc: Document the dynamic plugin internals
Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 14:58:40 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160524045840.GC29005@voom.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1462477724-8092-2-git-send-email-pantelis.antoniou-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

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One small nit in the document itself.

I have other comments, but they're about the overlay format itself,
rather than this patch as such.

On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 10:48:41PM +0300, Pantelis Antoniou wrote:
> Provides the document explaining the internal mechanics of
> plugins and options.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Pantelis Antoniou <pantelis.antoniou-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
> ---
>  Documentation/dt-object-internal.txt | 318 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 318 insertions(+)
>  create mode 100644 Documentation/dt-object-internal.txt
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/dt-object-internal.txt b/Documentation/dt-object-internal.txt
> new file mode 100644
> index 0000000..734f447
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/Documentation/dt-object-internal.txt
> @@ -0,0 +1,318 @@
> +Device Tree Dynamic Object format internals
> +-------------------------------------------
> +
> +The Device Tree for most platforms is a static representation of
> +the hardware capabilities. This is insufficient for many platforms
> +that need to dynamically insert device tree fragments to the
> +running kernel's live tree.
> +
> +This document explains the the device tree object format and the
> +modifications made to the device tree compiler, which make it possible.
> +
> +1. Simplified Problem Definition
> +--------------------------------
> +
> +Assume we have a platform which boots using following simplified device tree.
> +
> +---- foo.dts -----------------------------------------------------------------
> +	/* FOO platform */
> +	/ {
> +		compatible = "corp,foo";
> +
> +		/* shared resources */
> +		res: res {
> +		};
> +
> +		/* On chip peripherals */
> +		ocp: ocp {
> +			/* peripherals that are always instantiated */
> +			peripheral1 { ... };
> +		};
> +	};
> +---- foo.dts -----------------------------------------------------------------
> +
> +We have a number of peripherals that after probing (using some undefined method)
> +should result in different device tree configuration.
> +
> +We cannot boot with this static tree because due to the configuration of the
> +foo platform there exist multiple conficting peripherals DT fragments.
> +
> +So for the bar peripheral we would have this:
> +
> +---- foo+bar.dts -------------------------------------------------------------
> +	/* FOO platform + bar peripheral */
> +	/ {
> +		compatible = "corp,foo";
> +
> +		/* shared resources */
> +		res: res {
> +		};
> +
> +		/* On chip peripherals */
> +		ocp: ocp {
> +			/* peripherals that are always instantiated */
> +			peripheral1 { ... };
> +
> +			/* bar peripheral */
> +			bar {
> +				compatible = "corp,bar";
> +				... /* various properties and child nodes */
> +			};
> +		};
> +	};
> +---- foo+bar.dts -------------------------------------------------------------
> +
> +While for the baz peripheral we would have this:
> +
> +---- foo+baz.dts -------------------------------------------------------------
> +	/* FOO platform + baz peripheral */
> +	/ {
> +		compatible = "corp,foo";
> +
> +		/* shared resources */
> +		res: res {
> +			/* baz resources */
> +			baz_res: res_baz { ... };
> +		};
> +
> +		/* On chip peripherals */
> +		ocp: ocp {
> +			/* peripherals that are always instantiated */
> +			peripheral1 { ... };
> +
> +			/* baz peripheral */
> +			baz {
> +				compatible = "corp,baz";
> +				/* reference to another point in the tree */
> +				ref-to-res = <&baz_res>;
> +				... /* various properties and child nodes */
> +			};
> +		};
> +	};
> +---- foo+baz.dts -------------------------------------------------------------
> +
> +We note that the baz case is more complicated, since the baz peripheral needs to
> +reference another node in the DT tree.
> +
> +2. Device Tree Object Format Requirements
> +-----------------------------------------
> +
> +Since the device tree is used for booting a number of very different hardware
> +platforms it is imperative that we tread very carefully.
> +
> +2.a) No changes to the Device Tree binary format for the base tree. We cannot
> +modify the tree format at all and all the information we require should be
> +encoded using device tree itself. We can add nodes that can be safely ignored
> +by both bootloaders and the kernel. The plugin dtb's are optionally tagged
> +with a different magic number in the header but otherwise they too are simple
> +blobs.
> +
> +2.b) Changes to the DTS source format should be absolutely minimal, and should
> +only be needed for the DT fragment definitions, and not the base boot DT.
> +
> +2.c) An explicit option should be used to instruct DTC to generate the required
> +information needed for object resolution. Platforms that don't use the
> +dynamic object format can safely ignore it.
> +
> +2.d) Finally, DT syntax changes should be kept to a minimum. It should be
> +possible to express everything using the existing DT syntax.
> +
> +3. Implementation
> +-----------------
> +
> +The basic unit of addressing in Device Tree is the phandle. Turns out it's
> +relatively simple to extend the way phandles are generated and referenced
> +so that it's possible to dynamically convert symbolic references (labels)
> +to phandle values. This is a valid assumption as long as the author uses
> +reference syntax and does not assign phandle values manually (which might
> +be a problem with decompiled source files).
> +
> +We can roughly divide the operation into two steps.
> +
> +3.a) Compilation of the base board DTS file using the '-@' option
> +generates a valid DT blob with an added __symbols__ node at the root node,
> +containing a list of all nodes that are marked with a label.
> +
> +Using the foo.dts file above the following node will be generated;
> +
> +$ dtc -@ -O dtb -o foo.dtb -b 0 foo.dts
> +$ fdtdump foo.dtb
> +...
> +/ {
> +	...
> +	res {
> +		...
> +		phandle = <0x00000001>;
> +		...
> +	};
> +	ocp {
> +		...
> +		phandle = <0x00000002>;
> +		...
> +	};
> +	__symbols__ {
> +		res="/res";
> +		ocp="/ocp";
> +	};
> +};
> +
> +Notice that all the nodes that had a reference have been recorded, and that

s/reference/label/

> +phandles have been generated for them.


> +This blob can be used to boot the board normally, the __symbols__ node will
> +be safely ignored both by the bootloader and the kernel (the only loss will
> +be a few bytes of memory and disk space).
> +
> +3.b) The Device Tree fragments must be compiled with the same option but they
> +must also have a tag (/plugin/) that allows undefined references to nodes
> +that are not present at compilation time to be recorded so that the runtime
> +loader can fix them.
> +
> +So the bar peripheral's DTS format would be of the form:
> +
> +/dts-v1/ /plugin/;	/* allow undefined references and record them */
> +/ {
> +	....	/* various properties for loader use; i.e. part id etc. */
> +	fragment@0 {
> +		target = <&ocp>;
> +		__overlay__ {
> +			/* bar peripheral */
> +			bar {
> +				compatible = "corp,bar";
> +				... /* various properties and child nodes */
> +			}
> +		};
> +	};
> +};
> +
> +Note that there's a target property that specifies the location where the
> +contents of the overlay node will be placed, and it references the node
> +in the foo.dts file.

Ugh.. I really don't like the target stuff appearing in the dts like
this.  I thought we were changing this so these appeared in the blob,
but in the source we just used the existing overlay syntax, so for the
above, something like:

&ocp {
	...
};

Or have I gotten confused by the history of things.

> +$ dtc -@ -O dtb -o bar.dtbo -b 0 bar.dts
> +$ fdtdump bar.dtbo
> +...
> +/ {
> +	... /* properties */
> +	fragment@0 {
> +		target = <0xffffffff>;
> +		__overlay__ {
> +			bar {
> +				compatible = "corp,bar";
> +				... /* various properties and child nodes */
> +			}
> +		};
> +	};
> +	__fixups__ {
> +	    ocp = "/fragment@0:target:0";

I still hate this parse-requiring string, but I guess we're stuck with
it.

> +	};
> +};
> +
> +No __symbols__ has been generated (no label in bar.dts).
> +Note that the target's ocp label is undefined, so the phandle handle
> +value is filled with the illegal value '0xffffffff', while a __fixups__
> +node has been generated, which marks the location in the tree where
> +the label lookup should store the runtime phandle value of the ocp node.
> +
> +The format of the __fixups__ node entry is
> +
> +	<label> = "<local-full-path>:<property-name>:<offset>";
> +
> +<label> 		Is the label we're referring
> +<local-full-path>	Is the full path of the node the reference is
> +<property-name>		Is the name of the property containing the
> +			reference
> +<offset>		The offset (in bytes) of where the property's
> +			phandle value is located.
> +
> +Doing the same with the baz peripheral's DTS format is a little bit more
> +involved, since baz contains references to local labels which require
> +local fixups.
> +
> +/dts-v1/ /plugin/;	/* allow undefined label references and record them */
> +/ {
> +	....	/* various properties for loader use; i.e. part id etc. */
> +	fragment@0 {
> +		target = <&res>;
> +		__overlay__ {
> +			/* baz resources */
> +			baz_res: res_baz { ... };
> +		};
> +	};
> +	fragment@1 {
> +		target = <&ocp>;
> +		__overlay__ {
> +			/* baz peripheral */
> +			baz {
> +				compatible = "corp,baz";
> +				/* reference to another point in the tree */
> +				ref-to-res = <&baz_res>;
> +				... /* various properties and child nodes */
> +			}
> +		};
> +	};
> +};
> +
> +Note that &bar_res reference.
> +
> +$ dtc -@ -O dtb -o baz.dtbo -b 0 baz.dts
> +$ fdtdump baz.dtbo
> +...
> +/ {
> +	... /* properties */
> +	fragment@0 {
> +		target = <0xffffffff>;
> +		__overlay__ {
> +			res_baz {
> +				....
> +				phandle = <0x00000001>;
> +			};
> +		};
> +	};
> +	fragment@1 {
> +		target = <0xffffffff>;
> +		__overlay__ {
> +			baz {
> +				compatible = "corp,baz";
> +				... /* various properties and child nodes */
> +				ref-to-res = <0x00000001>;
> +			}
> +		};
> +	};
> +	__fixups__ {
> +		res = "/fragment@0:target:0";
> +		ocp = "/fragment@1:target:0";
> +	};
> +	__local_fixups__ {
> +		fragment@1 {
> +			__overlay__ {
> +				baz {
> +					ref-to-res = <0>;
> +				};
> +			};
> +		};
> +	};
> +};
> +
> +This is similar to the bar case, but the reference of a local label by the
> +baz node generates a __local_fixups__ entry that records the place that the
> +local reference is being made. No matter how phandles are allocated from dtc
> +the run time loader must apply an offset to each phandle in every dynamic
> +DT object loaded. The __local_fixups__ node records the place of every
> +local reference so that the loader can apply the offset.

I'm still utterly baffled why the __local_fixups__ encoding is totally
different from the __fixups__ encoding.  But, again, stuck with it, I
guess.

I'd really like to see a simplified, consolidated format defined and
deprecate this one, though.

> +There is an alternative syntax to the expanded form for overlays with phandle
> +targets which makes the format similar to the one using in .dtsi include files.
> +
> +So for the &ocp target example above one can simply write:
> +
> +/dts-v1/ /plugin/;
> +&ocp {
> +	/* bar peripheral */
> +	bar {
> +		compatible = "corp,bar";
> +		... /* various properties and child nodes */
> +	}
> +};
> +
> +The resulting dtb object is identical.

-- 
David Gibson			| I'll have my music baroque, and my code
david AT gibson.dropbear.id.au	| minimalist, thank you.  NOT _the_ _other_
				| _way_ _around_!
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-05-24  4:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-05 19:48 [PATCH v6 0/4] dtc: Dynamic DT support Pantelis Antoniou
     [not found] ` <1462477724-8092-1-git-send-email-pantelis.antoniou-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-05 19:48   ` [PATCH v6 1/4] dtc: Document the dynamic plugin internals Pantelis Antoniou
     [not found]     ` <1462477724-8092-2-git-send-email-pantelis.antoniou-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-24  4:58       ` David Gibson [this message]
     [not found]         ` <20160524045840.GC29005-RXTfZT5YzpxwFLYp8hBm2A@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-24  7:43           ` Pantelis Antoniou
     [not found]             ` <53E9201A-5D63-4A8E-8179-F96980F76BED-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-24 10:50               ` David Gibson
     [not found]                 ` <20160524105002.GD17226-RXTfZT5YzpxwFLYp8hBm2A@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-24 12:53                   ` Pantelis Antoniou
     [not found]                     ` <45A08C18-0368-48B2-B6E3-BC352E345125-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-25  3:41                       ` David Gibson
2016-05-05 19:48   ` [PATCH v6 2/4] dtc: Plugin and fixup support Pantelis Antoniou
     [not found]     ` <1462477724-8092-3-git-send-email-pantelis.antoniou-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-24 10:39       ` David Gibson
     [not found]         ` <20160524103907.GB17226-RXTfZT5YzpxwFLYp8hBm2A@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-24 14:04           ` Pantelis Antoniou
     [not found]             ` <33D5A973-4123-4B51-84D0-D0A5A70DA1A2-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-25  3:55               ` David Gibson
2016-05-05 19:48   ` [PATCH v6 3/4] plugin: Transparently support old style syntax Pantelis Antoniou
     [not found]     ` <1462477724-8092-4-git-send-email-pantelis.antoniou-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-06  0:58       ` Rob Herring
2016-05-06  9:14         ` Phil Elwell
     [not found]         ` <CAL_JsqJkJyMi4_RoxLAiVD3GXst8CX_8ekounavztXZKxdMKtg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-06  9:16           ` Phil Elwell
     [not found]             ` <CAPhXvM7D-Uv9nzmiiz8kw6w18nZQ-h_R4UEEPzj+_HPt3t=+BA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-06  9:30               ` Nicolas Ferre
     [not found]                 ` <572C6449.9080103-AIFe0yeh4nAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-06 12:39                   ` Rob Herring
2016-05-24 10:53           ` David Gibson
2016-05-05 19:48   ` [PATCH v6 4/4] DTBO magic and dtbo format options Pantelis Antoniou
     [not found]     ` <1462477724-8092-5-git-send-email-pantelis.antoniou-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-24 11:05       ` David Gibson

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