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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <Marc.Zyngier@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 2/2] clocksource: add J-Core timer/clocksource driver
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 19:21:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160825182053.GA15000@remoulade> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160825175135.GC15995@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 01:51:35PM -0400, Rich Felker wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 05:38:06PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 10:56:50AM -0400, Rich Felker wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 10:07:08AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > > Nominally it uses the same range of hardware interrupt numbers for all
> > > (presently both) cpus, but some of them get delivered to a specific
> > > cpu associated with the event (presently, IPI and timer; IPI is on a
> > > fixed number at synthesis time but timer is runtime configurable)
> > > while others are conceptually deliverable to either cpu (presently
> > > only delivered to cpu0, but that's treated as an implementation
> > > detail).
> > 
> > Given you say it's delivered to the CPU associated with the event (and you have
> > different PIT bases per-cpu), it sounds like your timer interrupt is percpu,
> > it's just that the hwirq number can be chosen by software.
> 
> It's what I would call percpu in the hardware, but I'm not convinced
> that the Linux irq subsystem's "percpu" stuff models it in a way
> that fits the hw, nor that it's in any way necessary.

My understanding was that you used the same hwirq number to handle interrupts
from per-cpu resources being delivered to their relevant CPUs, independently of
each other.

That in my mind is a perfect match.

The only difference, as I've stated a number of times, seems to be that you can
choose the hwirq number from software.

> > > It currently works requesting the irq with flags that ensure the
> > > handler runs on the same cpu it was delivered on, without using any
> > > other percpu irq framework. If you have concerns about ways this could
> > > break and want me to make the drivers do something else, I'm open to
> > > suggestions.
> > 
> > As I suggested, I don't think that this is right, and you need some mechanism
> > to describe to the kernel that the interrupt is percpu (e.g. a flag in the
> > interrupt-specifier in DT).
> 
> Thomas seemed to think it's okay as-is. Can you describe what you
> expect could go wrong by using request_irq rather than the ARM-style
> percpu irq framework?

The percpu irq code is designed to expect a hwirq number being shared by
banked, cpu-local interrupts, the regular request_irq code is not. Even if the
latter happens to work today for your use-case, that is not by design.

Relying on non-deliberate properties of request_irq makes it far harder for the
generic code to be altered in future, with global vs percpu locking,
synchronisation, accounting, etc being broken.

Thanks,
Mark.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-25 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-04  4:30 [PATCH v6 0/2] J-Core timer support Rich Felker
     [not found] ` <cover.147018b3518.git.dalias-8zAoT0mYgF4@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-04  4:30   ` [PATCH v6 1/2] of: add J-Core timer bindings Rich Felker
     [not found]     ` <5e1d4f3346f69bdd9d840c8b5a855c1f93ff93f6.147018b3518.git.dalias-8zAoT0mYgF4@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-04 18:16       ` Rob Herring
2016-08-04  4:30   ` [PATCH v6 2/2] clocksource: add J-Core timer/clocksource driver Rich Felker
2016-08-04  8:24     ` Alexnader Kuleshov
2016-08-04 19:42       ` Rich Felker
2016-08-24 16:42     ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-08-24 17:40       ` Rich Felker
     [not found]         ` <20160824174001.GW15995-C3MtFaGISjmo6RMmaWD+6Sb1p8zYI1N1@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-24 19:01           ` Marc Zyngier
2016-08-24 19:20             ` Rich Felker
     [not found]               ` <20160824192009.GX15995-C3MtFaGISjmo6RMmaWD+6Sb1p8zYI1N1@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-24 22:21                 ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-24 20:01         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-24 20:52           ` Rich Felker
2016-08-24 21:22             ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-24 21:44               ` Rich Felker
2016-08-24 21:57                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-25 10:23                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-24 22:54                 ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-25  8:07         ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-08-25 14:56           ` Rich Felker
2016-08-25 15:41             ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-08-25 17:45               ` Rich Felker
2016-08-25 16:38             ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-25 17:51               ` Rich Felker
2016-08-25 18:21                 ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2016-08-25 19:20                   ` Rich Felker
2016-08-26  9:04         ` Daniel Lezcano
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-08-03  0:18 [PATCH v6 0/2] J-Core timer support Rich Felker
     [not found] ` <cover.1470183518.git.dalias-8zAoT0mYgF4@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-17 23:12   ` [PATCH v6 2/2] clocksource: add J-Core timer/clocksource driver Rich Felker

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