From: Corentin Labbe <clabbe.montjoie@gmail.com>
To: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com, andrew@lunn.ch, wens@csie.org
Cc: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
Giuseppe Cavallaro <peppe.cavallaro@st.com>,
Alexandre Torgue <alexandre.torgue@st.com>,
devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] net: stmmac: register parent MDIO node for sun8i-h3-emac
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 21:44:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170824194441.GA21715@Red> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170824082124.GA14302@Red>
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 10:21:24AM +0200, Corentin Labbe wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 09:31:53AM -0700, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> > On 08/23/2017 12:49 AM, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> > > Hi Florian,
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 11:35:01AM -0700, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> > >>>>> So I think what you are saying is either impossible or engineering-wise
> > >>>>> a very stupid design, like using an external MAC with a discrete PHY
> > >>>>> connected to the internal MAC's MDIO bus, while using the internal MAC
> > >>>>> with the internal PHY.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Now can we please decide on something? We're a week and a half from
> > >>>>> the 4.13 release. If mdio-mux is wrong, then we could have two mdio
> > >>>>> nodes (internal-mdio & external-mdio).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I really don't see a need for a mdio-mux in the first place, just have
> > >>>> one MDIO controller (current state) sub-node which describes the
> > >>>> built-in STMMAC MDIO controller and declare the internal PHY as a child
> > >>>> node (along with 'phy-is-integrated'). If a different configuration is
> > >>>> used, then just put the external PHY as a child node there.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If fixed-link is required, the mdio node becomes unused anyway.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Works for everyone?
> > >>>
> > >>> If we put an external PHY with reg=1 as a child of internal MDIO,
> > >>> il will be merged with internal PHY node and get
> > >>> phy-is-integrated.
> > >>
> > >> Then have the .dtsi file contain just the mdio node, but no internal or
> > >> external PHY and push all the internal and external PHY node definition
> > >> (in its entirety) to the per-board DTS file, does not that work?
> > >
> > > If possible, I'd really like to have the internal PHY in the
> > > DTSI. It's always there in hardware anyway, and duplicating the PHY,
> > > with its clock, reset line, and whatever info we might need in the
> > > future in each and every board DTS that uses it will be very error
> > > prone and we will have the usual bunch of issues that come up with
> > > duplication.
> >
> > OK, then what if you put the internal PHY in the DTSI, mark it with a
> > status = "disabled" property, and have the per-board DTS put a status =
> > "okay" property along with a "phy-is-integrated" boolean property? Would
> > that work?
>
> No, I tested and for example with sun8i-h3-orangepi-plus.dts, the external PHY (ethernet-phy@1) is still merged.
> So that adding a 'status = "disabled"' does not bring anything.
>
> >
> > What I really don't think is necessary is:
> >
> > - duplicating the "mdio" controller node for external vs. internal PHY,
> > because this is not accurate, there is just one MDIO controller, but
> > there may be different kinds of MDIO/PHY devices attached
>
> For me, if we want to represent the reality, we need two MDIO:
> - since two PHY at the same address could co-exists
> - since they are isolated so not on the same MDIO bus
>
> > - having the STMMAC driver MDIO probing code having to deal with a
> > "mdio" sub-node or an "internal-mdio" sub-node because this is confusing
> > and requiring more driver-level changes that are error prone
>
> My patch for stmmac is really small, only the name of my variable ("need_mdio_mux_ids")
> have to be changed to something like "register_parent_mdio"
>
>
> So I agree with Maxime, we need to avoid merging PHY nodes, and we can avoid it only by having two separate MDIO nodes.
> Furthermore, with only one MDIO, we will face with lots of small patch for adding phy-is-integrated, with two we do not need to change any board DT, all is simply clean.
> Really having two MDIO seems cleaner.
>
Hello
I have speaked with Neil Amstrong, and he said that they get the same problem on amlogic.
They use a mdio-mux-mmioreg, (see eth-phy-mux in arch/arm64/boot/dts/amlogic/meson-gxl.dtsi)
So tomorow, i will send a patch series which do the same with the exception that we need a mdio-mux-syscon (which is easy/simple to do).
Since their setup use stmmac, it means that we will need 0 changes on stmmac.
Regards
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-08-24 19:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-08-18 12:21 [PATCH v3 0/4] net: stmmac: Detect PHY location with phy-is-integrated Corentin Labbe
2017-08-18 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] ARM: dts: sunxi: h3/h5: represent the mdio switch used by sun8i-h3-emac Corentin Labbe
2017-08-18 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] net: stmmac: dwmac-sun8i: choose internal PHY via phy-is-integrated Corentin Labbe
2017-08-18 16:58 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-08-22 16:40 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-08-18 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] net: stmmac: register parent MDIO node for sun8i-h3-emac Corentin Labbe
2017-08-18 17:05 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-08-19 18:50 ` Corentin Labbe
2017-08-19 20:38 ` Andrew Lunn
[not found] ` <20170819203836.GA21567-g2DYL2Zd6BY@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-20 6:57 ` Corentin Labbe
2017-08-20 14:25 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-08-21 8:10 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-08-21 13:20 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-08-21 13:31 ` Maxime Ripard
[not found] ` <20170821133104.qvrhvwin2rdg4aqo-ZC1Zs529Oq4@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-21 14:23 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-08-22 7:59 ` Corentin Labbe
[not found] ` <20170821142321.GE1703-g2DYL2Zd6BY@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-22 15:39 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
[not found] ` <CAGb2v64E4T=1ff3POGuXZA=MvjGAnKQ6OF6A3sT_cU-=jh6zNw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-22 16:40 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-08-22 18:11 ` Corentin Labbe
2017-08-22 18:35 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-08-22 19:37 ` Corentin Labbe
2017-08-23 7:49 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-08-23 16:31 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-08-24 8:12 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-08-24 8:21 ` Corentin Labbe
2017-08-24 19:44 ` Corentin Labbe [this message]
2017-08-24 19:59 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-08-25 2:54 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
[not found] ` <CAGb2v64jrDPSff+QL_PQBMaQJ+CcTVbskjuOUd1OqR4smbu+ig-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-25 3:05 ` Florian Fainelli
[not found] ` <77ff97c1-9d0a-8b3f-d0b9-25c951f86fec-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-25 3:41 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-08-25 3:59 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-08-25 13:26 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-08-22 16:50 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-08-18 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] dt-bindings: net: dwmac-sun8i: update documentation about integrated PHY Corentin Labbe
2017-08-18 16:57 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-08-19 18:33 ` Corentin Labbe
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