From: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@bootlin.com>
To: Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@arm.com>
Cc: Samuel Holland <samuel@sholland.org>,
Chen-Yu Tsai <wens@csie.org>,
Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar@gmail.com>,
Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mailbox: sunxi-msgbox: Add a new mailbox driver
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 12:51:31 +0100 [thread overview]
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On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 11:32:32AM +0000, Andre Przywara wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 01/03/18 10:32, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 11:19:11AM -0600, Samuel Holland wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On 02/28/18 02:32, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 08:27:14PM -0600, Samuel Holland wrote:
> >>>> + /*
> >>>> + * The failure path should not disable the clock or assert the reset,
> >>>> + * because the PSCI implementation in firmware relies on this device
> >>>> + * being functional. Claiming the clock in this driver is required to
> >>>> + * prevent Linux from turning it off.
> >>>> + */
> >>>> + ret = clk_prepare_enable(clk);
> >>>> + if (ret) {
> >>>> + dev_err(dev, "Failed to enable bus clock: %d\n", ret);
> >>>> + return ret;
> >>>> + }
> >>>
> >>> You don't need it to be always on though. You only need it to be
> >>> enabled when you access the registers (on both sides I guess?). So you
> >>> could very well enable the clock in your registers accessors in Linux,
> >>> and do the same in the ARISC firmware. That should work.
> >>
> >> It does need to always be on because the *PSCI* implementation (ATF) also uses
> >> SCPI concurrently with Linux (on a separate channel). Turning off the clock
> >> anywhere in Linux could turn it off in the middle of a PSCI SCPI call on a
> >> different CPU, causing ATF to hang in EL3 (which would be very bad).
> >
> > Then the above code doesn't fix anything. You should mark the clock
> > critical, otherwise that clock will be turned off if the driver is
> > compiled as a module and not loaded (or loaded later), or if the
> > driver is not even compiled in.
>
> ... or if the module gets unloaded for some reason. So yes, I agree.
> Actually I was hitting this problem before on several occasions:
> - If firmware (either ATF or on the ARISC) wants to check temperatures,
> it needs to rely on Linux not turning off the THS clock - which it does
> at the moment when there is no Linux driver.
> - If an EFI framebuffer needs to keep running in Linux, we should not
> turn off the HDMI and DE clocks. simplefb solves this, but efifb has no
> simple way of copying this approach.
> - If a type 1 hypervisor like Xen uses the serial console (and exports a
> virtual console to the guest), Linux turns off the now apparently unused
> UART0 gate clock, killing Xen's console. So booting Xen on Allwinner
> requires clk_ignore_unused at the moment.
>
> There are ways to mitigate or workaround each one of these, but I was
> wondering if we should look at a more general approach.
>
> The most flexible seems to have some "clock victim" DT node, somewhat
> mimicking the simplefb solution: One DT node which just references
> clocks that are used by other (firmware) components in the system and
> which can't be protected otherwise.
> Normally this node would be empty, but firmware can add clock references
> the moment it needs one clock. So ATF could add the THS clock, and Xen
> could add the UART0 gate clock. This could be done at runtime by the
> firmware or hypervisor. Xen for instance already amends the DT before
> passing it on to Dom0, so copying all the clock references from the UART
> to this node would be easy to implement.
>
> Does that sound worthwhile to pursue? I could sketch up something if
> that makes sense.
This makes sense, but I remember how heated the simplefb discussion
has been to introduce the clocks and regulator properties, so I'm not
sure this would be nice to encourage you to do that :)
Maxime
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-03-01 11:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-02-28 2:27 [PATCH 0/3] Allwinner sunxi message box support Samuel Holland
2018-02-28 2:27 ` [PATCH 1/3] dt-bindings: Add a binding for the sunxi message box Samuel Holland
2018-02-28 8:28 ` Maxime Ripard
2018-02-28 17:17 ` Andre Przywara
2018-03-01 10:03 ` Maxime Ripard
2018-02-28 17:52 ` Samuel Holland
2018-02-28 2:27 ` [PATCH 2/3] mailbox: Avoid NULL dereference in mbox_chan_received_data Samuel Holland
2018-02-28 17:17 ` Andre Przywara
2018-03-01 13:32 ` Jassi Brar
2018-02-28 2:27 ` [PATCH 3/3] mailbox: sunxi-msgbox: Add a new mailbox driver Samuel Holland
2018-02-28 8:32 ` Maxime Ripard
2018-02-28 17:19 ` Samuel Holland
2018-03-01 10:32 ` Maxime Ripard
2018-03-01 11:32 ` Andre Przywara
2018-03-01 11:51 ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2018-02-28 9:16 ` Jassi Brar
2018-02-28 17:51 ` Samuel Holland
2018-02-28 18:14 ` Jassi Brar
2018-02-28 18:56 ` Samuel Holland
2018-03-01 5:22 ` Jassi Brar
2018-02-28 8:24 ` [PATCH 0/3] Allwinner sunxi message box support Maxime Ripard
2018-02-28 17:18 ` Samuel Holland
2018-03-01 10:28 ` Maxime Ripard
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