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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>
Cc: mark.rutland@arm.com, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	Tero Kristo <t-kristo@ti.com>,
	trini@konsulko.com, wmills@ti.com,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 12/13] ARM: dts: ti: add dra71-evm FIT description file
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 18:33:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180529173314.GN17671@n2100.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16a6017f-96c8-42d8-38bc-5cdd36d6793f@gmail.com>

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:05:37AM -0700, Frank Rowand wrote:
> On 05/22/18 13:01, Rob Herring wrote:
> > I'll tell you up front, I'm not a fan of FIT image (nor uImage, 
> > Android boot image, $bootloader image). If you want a collection of 
> > files and some configuration data, use a filesystem and a text file.

Me neither.

> My gut feel is that using a filesystem and a text file is the easier way
> to create the boot info.  But that also makes applying the overlay(s)
> during early Linux boot (at the point of FDT unflattening) impractical
> (can't access the file system without a driver, the driver depends on
> the devicetree, the devicetree depends upon the overlay).

Why do you want to apply overlays during the kernel boot?  The boot
loader should be providing the kernel with the merged DT to describe
the system that the kernel is running on - it's not the kernel's
job to put that together.

The whole point of DT is to make the kernel _less_ tied to the hardware
and more generic.  If we're going to introduce an entirely new set of
drivers into the kernel to "probe" the hardware to determine which
overlays are required, then that's really defeating the purpose of DT.

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-29 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-17  9:10 [RFC 00/13] ARM: dts: DT overlay support infra + some data Tero Kristo
2018-04-17  9:10 ` [RFC 01/13] ARM: dts: allow building .dtb files under platform subdirs Tero Kristo
2018-04-19  0:02   ` Rob Herring
2018-04-17  9:10 ` [RFC 02/13] ARM: dts: add support for building DT overlays Tero Kristo
2018-04-17  9:10 ` [RFC 03/13] ARM: dts: add subdir for TI SoC DT files Tero Kristo
2018-04-17  9:10 ` [RFC 04/13] kbuild: add support for building %.dtbo targets Tero Kristo
2018-04-18 14:16   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-04-17  9:10 ` [RFC 05/13] ARM: dts: ti: add support for building .dtb files containing symbols Tero Kristo
2018-04-18 14:20   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-04-18 19:07     ` Tero Kristo
2018-04-18 22:43     ` Rob Herring
2018-04-19  6:36       ` Tero Kristo
2018-04-19 15:26         ` Rob Herring
2018-04-19 18:00           ` Tero Kristo
2018-04-17  9:10 ` [RFC 06/13] ARM: dts: am57xx-evm: add AM57xx-evm DT overlay Tero Kristo
2018-04-18 14:36   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-04-18 19:12     ` Tero Kristo
2018-04-18 19:15       ` Russell King
2018-04-20 13:27         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-04-18 22:40     ` Rob Herring
2018-04-19  0:19   ` Rob Herring
2018-04-19  6:49     ` Tero Kristo
2018-04-20  1:31       ` Rob Herring
2018-04-17  9:10 ` [RFC 07/13] ARM: dts: ti: add camera overlays Tero Kristo
2018-04-17  9:10 ` [RFC 08/13] ARM: dts: ti: add dra71-evm overlays Tero Kristo
2018-04-17  9:10 ` [RFC 09/13] kbuild: add support for generating FIT images Tero Kristo
2018-04-17  9:10 ` [RFC 10/13] ARM: dts: add FIT image build support for ARM architecture Tero Kristo
2018-04-17  9:10 ` [RFC 11/13] ARM: dts: ti: add FIT image dependencies Tero Kristo
2018-04-17  9:10 ` [RFC 12/13] ARM: dts: ti: add dra71-evm FIT description file Tero Kristo
2018-04-17  9:29   ` Russell King
2018-04-17  9:34     ` Tero Kristo
2018-04-17 14:49       ` Tony Lindgren
2018-05-21  6:57         ` Tero Kristo
2018-05-22 20:01           ` Rob Herring
2018-05-23  5:55             ` Tero Kristo
2018-05-23 14:13               ` Rob Herring
2018-05-23 18:37               ` Tony Lindgren
2018-05-29 17:05             ` Frank Rowand
2018-05-29 17:33               ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2018-05-29 22:45                 ` Frank Rowand
2018-05-29 22:51                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-04-17  9:10 ` [RFC 13/13] ARM: dts: ti: add am57xx-evm " Tero Kristo
2018-04-17  9:18 ` [RFC 00/13] ARM: dts: DT overlay support infra + some data Russell King

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